How Does a Spring Balance Measure Force in Different Elevator Scenarios?

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The discussion revolves around the mechanics of force measurement using a spring balance in various elevator scenarios, as well as the forces acting on a firefighter sliding down a pole. The subject area includes concepts from Newtonian physics, specifically forces and motion.

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  • Participants explore the effects of constant speed and acceleration on the readings of a spring balance. Questions are raised about the forces acting on the firefighter and the implications of Newton's laws in these scenarios. Some participants suggest using conservation equations and Newton's laws to analyze the problems.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problems, offering hints and discussing relevant principles without providing direct solutions. There is a focus on understanding the application of Newton's laws and the relationships between forces in different contexts.

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Some participants note the importance of considering the direction of forces and the effects of acceleration on the readings of the spring balance. The original poster expresses confusion about the concepts, indicating a need for clarification on the underlying physics.

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ok so i am completely lost on all this force stuff...help...please

An object is hung from a spring balance attached to the ceiling of an elevator cab. The balance reads 65 N when the elevator is standing still.

(a) What is the reading when the elevator is moving upward with a constant speed of 7.7 m/s?

(b) What is the reading when the elevator is moving upward with a speed of 7.7 m/s while decelerating at a rate of 1.8 m/s2?

and this one as well

A firefighter with a weight of 725 N slides down a vertical pole with an acceleration of 2.92 m/s2, directed downward.

(a) What are the magnitude and direction of the vertical force (use up as the positive direction) exerted by the pole on the firefighter?

(b) What are the magnitude and direction of the vertical force (use up as the positive direction) exerted by the firefighter on the pole?
 
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Let me give you a hint from what I read on the post. I will not offer an asnwer or steps to the unswer because I'm a bit rusty on this subject, but Ihope this helps you.

If there was no friction then the fire figther would be freefalling at the rate of gravitational pull (gravity) he is going slower so he is exerting a force on the pole and thus the pole is also exerting a force on the firefigther.

Use your conservation equtions (force, momentum, etc.)

Again I hope this helps.
 
These problems deal with Newton's 3 laws,
F_net =0,
F_net = ma, and
F_(a on b) = F_(b on a),
respectively. Please show your attempt at a solution, using these laws as applicable for the given data.
 
Use F= m a

From the given info, what is the weight (W) of the object?

Then

\SigmaF = m a

For part (a), a = ?

What does this mean for \Sigma F?

Then, what does the SB read?

Assume up is + and down is -.

For part (b), a = ? (include the appropriate sign)

What forces act ON the object?

Substitute into \SigmaF = m a and solve.

Oh; don't forget, m = W / g
 

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