How Does Air Resistance Affect the Velocity of a Falling Object?

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The discussion revolves around the effects of air resistance on the velocity of a falling object, specifically a ball released from rest. The problem involves deriving an expression for speed in terms of the distance fallen, incorporating the air resistance modeled as R = kv².

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the relationship between acceleration, velocity, and distance, attempting to derive the speed as a function of distance fallen. There are discussions about separating variables and integrating the equations of motion under the influence of air resistance.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing hints and corrections regarding the formulation of the equations. Some participants are questioning their understanding of the relationships between acceleration, velocity, and distance, while others are offering guidance on how to approach the integration process.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct application of acceleration in terms of time versus distance, as well as the need to ensure dimensional consistency in derived expressions.

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A ball of mass m is released from rest at x=0. Air resistance is expressed as R = kv2 , where k is a positive constant and v denotes velocity.

Derive an expression for the speed in terms of the distance x that it has fallen.
Identify the terminal v.

I know I have to start with ma = mg - kv2 and integrate but I can't seem to separate the variables right to get it as function of x or distance (even though the problem has a picture of a vertical fall)
 
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Hint: Express the 'a' in your equation differently.
 
Okay so I have mv(dv/dx) = mg - kv2 , and divide both sides by the (mg - kv2)

Then, (mv/(mg - kv2))dv = dx

∫(mv/mg - mv/kv2) dv = ∫dx

Just need a little help integrating if I'm on the right track I guess...
 
Acceleration is not the derivative of velocity with respect to distance; it is the derivative with respect to time.
 
Great...just realized that
 
If I change a to d2s/dt2 is this the right path?
 
Since your force is given in terms of v, it would be better to write the acceleration as dv/dt:
[tex]m\frac{dv}{dt}= mg- kv^2[/tex]
and there is no problem with "separating variables"- you have
[tex]\frac{mdv}{mg- kv^2}= dt[/tex]
 
But I need the velocity in terms of the distance fallen, x. Integrating the right side, ∫dt , would just give me 't' am I right?
 
Was I not correct in saying that a = v (dv/ds) ??
 
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In my book it says v dv = a ds --> a = v(dv/ds)...

so I have vdv/(-g + kv2) = dx

∫vdv/(-g + kv2) [from 0 to v] = ∫dx [from 0 to x]

(1/2k) ln(-g+kv2) [from 0 to v] = x

--> (1/2k) ln(g-kv2/g) = x

Solving for v and skipping a few steps I got v = √(g/k(1-e2kx))
 
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Your units do not show velocity. You need a mass in there.
 
  • #12
You're right...should start as dx = mvdv/(-mg + kv2)
 
  • #13
Whenever you derive something, it is always prudent to check your units in the final product to see that they are what is intended. Secondly, it is a good idea to explore the limits of your formula to see if it makes sense at its limits.
 

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