How Does Changing Force Angle Affect Kinetic Energy Increase in a Sled?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a sled being pulled across a horizontal surface with negligible friction. The original poster seeks to understand how changing the angle of the pulling force affects the increase in kinetic energy of the sled, specifically comparing a force applied directly in the direction of motion to one applied at an angle of 62° above the horizontal.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of the work-energy theorem and the relationship between work done and changes in kinetic energy. Some express confusion over solving for variables, while others suggest using trigonometric relationships to analyze the components of the force.

Discussion Status

There are multiple lines of reasoning being explored, including algebraic methods and ratio comparisons. Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between force components and kinetic energy changes, while others have questioned the assumptions regarding work done in the context of frictionless motion.

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Participants note that the problem involves assumptions about friction being negligible and the implications of changing the angle of the applied force on the sled's motion. There is a focus on understanding how these factors influence the kinetic energy increase.

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Help! I am a starter physicist and I need hlep on this question stated thus:

Homework Statement



A sled is being pulled across a horizontal patch of snow.
Friction is negligible. The pulling force points in the same direction
as the sled's displacement, which is along the +x axis. As a result, the kinetic energy of the sled increases by 38%. By what percentage would the sled's kinetic energy have increased if this force had pointed 62° above the +x axis?

Homework Equations



W = final KE - initial KE
W = (F cos theta)*displacement

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried using the work-energy theorem, but i couldn't solve for any of the variables. Then I turned to the second work formula, but still no dice.
 
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Since Friction is negligible, no work done.
 
Parzival said:

Homework Statement



A sled is being pulled across a horizontal patch of snow.
Friction is negligible. The pulling force points in the same direction
as the sled's displacement, which is along the +x axis. As a result, the kinetic energy of the sled increases by 38%. By what percentage would the sled's kinetic energy have increased if this force had pointed 62° above the +x axis?

Homework Equations



W = final KE - initial KE
W = (F cos theta)*displacement

The Attempt at a Solution



I tried using the work-energy theorem, but i couldn't solve for any of the variables. Then I turned to the second work formula, but still no dice.


You have all the necessary formulae. The work is equal to the change of KE. Write it out for both cases. The angles are different, but the displacements same x.
Call the intial kinetic energy KEi. Write the change of KE in terms of KEi. It is 0.38KEi in the first case, and ηKEi in the second case when theta=62°. You need to find the unknown factor η.
Divide the equations with each other: Both KEi and x cancel. Solve for η .



ehild
 
azizlwl said:
Since Friction is negligible, no work done.

That is not right. The sled is accelerated. The change of kinetic energy needs work.

ehild
 
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The first time I read the problem I did a different way than was suggested.

If the initial force parallel to the ground causes an inc in the Kinetic energy by 38% then a force at an angle of 62 degrees, there is only 46.9% of the original force being applied horizontally.

How I got 46.9% is by F cos(angle)= force in the x direction
Fcos(62) = ""
F 0.469 = "" ""
This is essentially saying that only .469% of the force is in the x direction( the rest in the y-direction).
In the original case(where there is 38% inc) the angle is zero and cos 0= 1 so 100% of the force is in the x direction.
So if 100 of the force = 38% , then 46.9 percent of the force = ?simple ratio 100 = 38
----- ----
46.9 x
Therefore what is x this is 17% so there is only a 17% inc in Kinetic energy when the force is applied at 62 degrees to the ground.

Let me know if you want the algebraic method suggested by the other poster you will still arrive at the same answer, but its longer.
 
Kugan said:
Therefore what is x this is 17% so there is only a 17% inc in Kinetic energy when the force is applied at 62 degrees to the ground.

Let me know if you want the algebraic method suggested by the other poster you will still arrive at the same answer, but its longer.

Both methods are essentially the same.

ehild
 
I figured it out by myself, but thank you all.
The ratio of the initial work to the work w/ the 62° angle is

Fs/s(f cos 62°)
= 1/(cos 62°)

Thus, multiply 38% by cos 62° (0.469).
Significant digits yield 0.18, or 18%.
 

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