How Does Angling the Force Affect Kinetic Energy Increase in a Sled?

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The problem involves a sled being pulled across snow with negligible friction, examining how the angle of the pulling force affects the increase in kinetic energy. The original poster presents a scenario where the force is directed along the sled's displacement and then questions the effect of angling the force 62 degrees above the horizontal.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the impact of the force's angle on kinetic energy, with some attempting to clarify the relationship between work done and energy increase. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the problem statement and the calculations involved.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and questioning the assumptions made in their calculations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the components of the force and the work-energy relationship, but no consensus has been reached.

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Participants express uncertainty about the problem statement's clarity and the definitions of terms like W0 and W1. There is a noted lack of agreement on the correct interpretation of the energy increases and the calculations leading to them.

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Homework Statement


A sled is being pulled across a horizontal patch of snow. Friction is negligible. The pulling force points in the same direction as the sled's displacement, which is along the +x axis. As a result, the kinetic energy of the sled increases by 38% . By what percentage would the sled's kinetic energy have increased if this force had pointed 62o above the +x axis?

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The Work-Energy Theorem

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So I get, that the kinetic energy is reduced by 35% .

Correct answer: the kinetic energy increases by 18% .[/B]
 
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kaspis245 said:
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kaspis245 said:
Correct answer: the kinetic energy increases
If the problem statement is complete and correctly transcribed in your original post, without checking your math, you are correct. It would be best that you double-check the problem statement.
 
The problem statement is correct 100%. Maybe I understood the problem incorrectly?
 
As written, what you've done looks correct --- the x-component of the force is 100 % for the first case, and is reduced for the second. Looks like a really lousy problem statement, and an even worse job of proof-reading/checking matches of answers with problems. Let us know whether anyone fesses up, or how they rationalize the answer that's claimed.
 
I think it is understanding indeed. I fail to understand what W0 represents, for example.
You are given that Ekin + F ##\cdot## s = 1.38 Ekin

Now try to grasp what you are being asked. The 17.8% book answer is correct.
 
Wo represents work with which other works (W1 and W2) are compared.

I understand your method, but I don't understand why my method didn't work.
 
Still don't understand. If you write W1 = F ##\cdot## s , then I don't understand why you consider that to be 138 % of W0 instead of 38%
 
As the problem says, the kinetic energy of Wo increases by 38% .

If I say, that the very first energy, with which we will compare other energies, is equal to 100% , then the second energy W1, which is along +x axis, must be equal to 138% (increases by 38%) .
 
Fine with me. But then you must write W1 = W0 + F ##\cdot## s.
There is no friction, the original kinetic energy doesn't go away.

And energies are not along any axis. Energies are numbers. But I understand what you mean.
 
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BvU has you pointed in the right direction --- stay with him, and forget everything I said --- I misread the problem horribly.
 

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