How Does Charge Transfer Affect Electrostatic Force Between Spheres?

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The discussion revolves around the electrostatic force between two charged spheres and how charge transfer affects this force. The problem involves determining the fraction of charge transferred that results in the force being one-fourth of its maximum value.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between the transferred charge and the resulting electrostatic force. Questions arise regarding the application of the maximum force value and how to derive the specific fraction of charge that leads to the desired force condition.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering various interpretations and approaches to find the solution. Some have suggested methods for calculating the required charge ratio, while others have pointed out the importance of charge conservation in the context of the problem.

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There is a noted ambiguity in the problem setup, particularly regarding the interpretation of the maximum force and the conditions under which the force is to be evaluated. Participants are considering the implications of these assumptions on their calculations.

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Of the charge Q initially on a tiny sphere, a portion q is to be transferred to a second, nearby sphere. Both spheres can be treated a particles. For what value of q/Q will the electrostatic force between the two parts have 1/4 of the maximum possible value?

q1=Q when the charge is transferred its Q - q
q2=0 becomes q after transfer

F = K(|q1||Q-q|)/r^2

dF(q)/dq = 0

0 = dF/dq = K/r^2 d/dq (qQ - q^2)
then Q - 2q = 0
so q = Q/2

so Fmax is 1/2

My question is, where do i apply the 1/4 of the max. value? I am rather confused. I thought it would just be 1/4 of the max.

any help would be appreciated. thanks.
 
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If you know the max. value, multiply by 1/4 and then solve for q/Q.
 
gee, that was ambiguous ...

make sur eyou CONSERVE charge ...

They want the Force to be 1/4 of the maximum Force.
Ignoring r^2 and k, F_max = (Q/2)(Q/2) = Q^2 /4 .
. . . You want : (q)(Q-q) = Q^2 /16.
F = (Q/8)(7Q/8) = Q^2 7/64 is almost 2x too strong.
 
let the ratio be r:
q=rQ
rQ(Q-rQ)=Q^2/16

solve it...
 

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