How Does Differentiation Relate to Polynomial Inequalities?

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The discussion revolves around a polynomial inequality involving the function p(x) defined as a polynomial and its relationship to the exponential function e^(x-1) - 1. The original poster attempts to prove a specific inequality related to the coefficients of the polynomial based on the given conditions.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the implications of the polynomial passing through a specific point and question the correctness of the derivative provided. There is also discussion about proving the inequality for the derivative and its connection to the original function.

Discussion Status

The discussion has evolved with participants providing clarifications and corrections regarding the derivative of the polynomial. Some guidance has been offered on how to approach the proof by considering the behavior of the polynomial at a specific point.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct formulation of the derivative and the implications of the polynomial's behavior at x = 1. The original poster expresses difficulty in editing their initial post, which may affect the clarity of the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Suppose p(x)\ =\ a_0\ +\ a_1x\ +\ a_2x^2\ +\ ...\ + a_nx^n.

Now if |p(x)|\ <=\ |e^{x-1}\ -\ 1| for all x\ >=\ 0 then

Prove |a_1\ +\ 2a_2\ +\ ...\ + na_n|\ <=\ 1.

2. Relevant Graph( |e^{x-1}\ -\ 1| )
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The Attempt at a Solution


From the graph we can conclude that
p(x) should pass through (1,0)
=> a_1\ +\ a_2\ +\ ...\ + a_n\ =\ 0

Further, I'm not able to apply any other condition given to simplify the expression. Their is of course something to do with the derivative as I found this question in a book of differentiation.
Any help would be highly appreciated.

Thanks
 
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What is the derivative of p(x)?

Have you copied the problem correctly?



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Have you copied the problem correctly?
Sorry, there isn't x in the proof
I have corrected the problem.

p'(x)\ =\ a_1\ +\ 2a_2x\ +\ 3a_3x^2\ +\ ...\ +\ na_nx^{n-1}
 
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Perhaps it's p'(1) =\ a_1\ +\ 2a_2\ +\ 3a_3\ +\ ...\ +\ na_n
 
phoenixXL said:
p'(x)\ =\ a_1\ +\ 2a_2\ +\ 3a_3\ +\ ...\ +\ na_n

That is not the correct derivative of ##p(x)##. The derivative should have some variables ##x##.
 
phoenixXL said:
From the graph we can conclude that
p(x) should pass through (1,0)
=> a_1\ +\ a_2\ +\ ...\ + a_n\ =\ 0

wrong. note that p passing through (1,0) means that p(1)=a_0+a_1+\cdots +a_n=0\Rightarrow a_0=-(a_1+\cdots +a_n)
 
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benorin said:
wrong. note that p passing through (1,0) means that p(1)=a_0+a_1+\cdots +a_n=0\Rightarrow a_0=-(a_1+\cdots +a_n)

right I messed with it. Additionally I don't know why I'm not able to edit the first post.

micromass said:
That is not the correct derivative of ##p(x)##. The derivative should have some variables ##x##.
I corrected it. Thanks.
 
If I could just prove that the inequality of the funciton
i.e. |p(x)|\ <=\ |e^{x-1}\ −\ 1|
also holds true for the derivative
i.e. (|p(x)|)'\ <=\ (|e^{x-1}\ −\ 1|)'
then I could just substitute x = 1 and prove the question.

But I just couldn't formulate how to deduce from the given conditions to that part.
Any Ideas ?
 
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As you noted, p(1) = 0, so you can say that
$$\lvert p(x) - p(1) \rvert \le \lvert e^{x-1}-1 \rvert.$$ Now consider the definition of a derivative as a limit of a difference quotient and write down the expression for p'(1). Do you see the connection now?
 
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Do you see the connection now?
Right.

p&#039;(1)\ =\ lim_{h\rightarrow0}\frac{p(1+h)-p(1)}{h}\\<br /> \implies a_1+2a_2+3a_3+...+na_n\ =\ lim_{h\rightarrow0}\frac{p(1+h)}{h},\ as\ p(1)\ =\ 0<br />
I was able to solve it.
Thank you for your time
 

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