How Does Falling Water Affect Scale Readings?

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The discussion focuses on calculating the scale reading when water falls into a bucket. Water falls at a rate of 250 g/s from a height of 60 m, filling a 780 g bucket. The initial velocity of the water is calculated to be 34.3 m/s, leading to an impulse force of 8.58 N. The correct approach emphasizes using the instantaneous force for scale readings, which should include the weight of the water already in the bucket and convert the total force back into grams.

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Homework Statement



Water falls at the rate of 250 g/s from a height of 60 m into a 780 g bucket on a scale (without splashing). If the bucket is originally empty, what does the scale read after 2 s?

Homework Equations



p=mv
F[tex]\Delta[/tex]t=[tex]\Delta[/tex]p

The Attempt at a Solution



So I assumed that the water was already beginning to fill the bucket at t=0, since it can't reach the bucket in 2s.

First I found the velocity of the water right before it fills the bucket...
vf2=vi2+2ax
vf2= 2(9.81 m/s2)(60m)
vf= 34.3 m/s

Then I used the impulse momentum theorem...
F[tex]\Delta[/tex]t=[tex]\Delta[/tex]p
F( 2 s) = .500 kg( 0 - 34.3 m/s)
F = 8.58 N

Weight of the bucket is mg, which is 7.65 N...
so 8.58 + 7.65 is 16.2 N

im not sure about this though... can someone double check my work, I only have one try left
 
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Hi asura! :smile:
asura said:
First I found the velocity of the water right before it fills the bucket...
vf2=vi2+2ax
vf2= 2(9.81 m/s2)(60m)
vf= 34.3 m/s

Then I used the impulse momentum theorem...
F[tex]\Delta[/tex]t=[tex]\Delta[/tex]p
F( 2 s) = .500 kg( 0 - 34.3 m/s)
F = 8.58 N

Weight of the bucket is mg, which is 7.65 N...
so 8.58 + 7.65 is 16.2 N

im not sure about this though... can someone double check my work, I only have one try left

Yes, your v is correct. :smile:

But your method after that is completely wrong.

The impulse momentum theorem is the correct principle, but you should use it to find the instantaneous force (because the scale only measures instantaneous force, not total force).

Then add the weight of the water already in the bucket

(and don't forget to convert from N back into g :wink:)
 

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