How Does Gravity Change Inside the Earth's Surface?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the effects of gravity as one moves from the Earth's surface to its center, exploring theoretical scenarios and implications related to gravitational forces, pressure, and the behavior of matter under extreme conditions. Participants engage with concepts from physics, including gravitational acceleration, pressure differentials, and hypothetical tunneling through the Earth.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that at the center of the Earth, one would experience weightlessness due to gravity pulling equally from all sides.
  • Others argue that if one were to fall to the center, they would accelerate downward at a decreasing rate until reaching the center, where no gravitational force would act on them.
  • A participant questions how this assumption aligns with the collapse of stars under their own gravity, proposing that pressure from density and gravity must be considered.
  • Some discuss the nature of pressure within the Earth, noting that it increases towards the center due to the weight of outer layers, and that this pressure can lead to the formation of rocks and diamonds.
  • There are mentions of oscillating through a hypothetical tunnel drilled straight through the Earth, with varying opinions on the dynamics of such motion.
  • Several participants express curiosity about the extreme pressures at the Earth's center, estimated to be around 350-360 GPa, and discuss the implications of such conditions on matter.
  • Some humorously speculate about the feasibility of constructing a tunnel through the Earth and the challenges involved, including pressure profiles and potential dangers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of views on the effects of gravity and pressure at the Earth's center, with no consensus reached on the implications of these conditions. The discussion includes both theoretical explorations and speculative ideas, indicating ongoing uncertainty and debate.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various assumptions about gravity and pressure without resolving the mathematical or physical details involved. The discussion remains open-ended regarding the implications of these concepts.

  • #31
atom888 said:
Dang, some good pressure. I'm trying to make some synthetic diamond so I can get marry with less cost. I'm encountering problem with heat source. Where can I get 4000K ? no metal would hold that temp even ceramic. I'm thinking concentrate sunlight intersecting beams +conventional fire. Crap, it seems easier buy that stone.
doesn't a diamond evaporate somewhere 2000- 3000 degrees fahrenheit? or was it somewhere in the 4000s, i forgot...
 
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  • #32
pixchips said:
Not so misleading if you drop a mass from the surface into a hole through the planet. It will oscillate under ideal conditions between the opposit surfaces, which would correspond to a zero height orbit. Real low Earth orbits are 60 to 90 miles, which is a small fraction of a percent of the radius. So it really does model a low Earth orbit in some sense.

Now here's an interesting realization (to me anyway): according to Newton, the gravitational force felt beneath the surface of a homogenous planet is due to the mass contained in a spherical radius between you and the center. That makes the force proportional to x^3, and inversely proportional to x^2 ... therefore, so ma=-kx, and we actually do get harmonic motion.

So how does it change if the amplitude exceeds the radius? Once the mass leaves the surface the rule reverts to inverse square. The nice harmonic oscillation breaks, and the nifty model of a circular motion projected onto the center line fails too. The projection of the orbit will always be sinusoidal, but the oscillating mass won't remain sinusoidal once the amplitude exceeds the radius. Or did I miss something?

There's a conservation of energy, so unless you started with an velocity >= escape velocity you would continue to oscillate, I believe.
 

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