How Does Momentum Change in a Two-Dimensional Collision?

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The discussion revolves around a two-dimensional collision problem involving two balls with given masses and initial velocities. The original poster seeks to determine the momentum of one of the balls after the collision, given the angles at which they move post-collision.

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  • Participants discuss breaking down momentum into x and y components and suggest drawing diagrams to visualize the problem. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the next steps, particularly regarding the lack of a velocity for one of the balls. Some participants question the validity of a proposed solution from another source, while others attempt to clarify the use of trigonometry in the context of the angles provided.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and offering various approaches to analyze the momentum. Some guidance has been provided regarding the use of trigonometric functions to resolve components, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct method or outcome.

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There is a noted lack of information regarding the velocities after the collision, which is central to solving the problem. Participants are also navigating differing opinions on the validity of external solutions presented in the discussion.

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A 5.00 kg Ball A moving at 12.0 m/s collides with a stationary 4.00 kg Ball B. After
the collision, Ball A moves off at an angle of 38.0º right of its original direction. Ball B 52.0º left of Ball A's original direction. After the collision, what is the momentum
of Ball A?


P1 + P2 = P1' + P2'
60 + 0 = P1' + P2'

After this I have no idea where to go. We would need a velocity however there isn't one given.

I'm assuming a vector diagram would be useful, but I am not too sure what that would look like.
 
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You must break up the momentum into the x and y components, and sum up in each direction. Draw a diagram to keep track of everything.
 
hage567 said:
You must break up the momentum into the x and y components, and sum up in each direction. Draw a diagram to keep track of everything.

I don't have the hypotenuse to be able to do that. The only thing I could think of would be x =(60-y) and y=(60-x)
 
Ok so I also asked this question on Yahoo answers, and some person gave me this:

60=P’[sin(38) + cos(38)]
60= P’[1.25144222]
P'=60 / 1.25144222
P'=47.9446826 =
P'= 48 kgm/s

Now I have never seen anything alike this taught to me. Does this have any truth to it?

I was also given this which seems more... legit

PX(x) = 5kg*12 m/s = 60
PX(y) = 5kg*0 m/s = 0
PY(x) = 4kg * 0 m/s = 0
PY(y) = 4kg * 0 m/s = 0

PX'(x) = cos(38)*PX'
PX'(y) = sin(38)*PX'
PY'(x) = cos(52)*PY'
PY'(y) = sin(52)*PY'

Then use conservation of momentum in each direction
60 = PX(x) + PY(x) = PX'(x) + PY'(x)
0 = PX(y) + PY(y) = PX'(y) + PY'(y)

from this we see
PX'(y) = - PY'(y)
and
PX'(x) = 60 - PY'(x)

then plug in the sine formulas for each component.
you now have two equations with two variables.
solve one for PY' and plug into the other to solve for PX'
 
Donnie_b said:
I don't have the hypotenuse to be able to do that. The only thing I could think of would be x =(60-y) and y=(60-x)

You don't need the hypotenuse to break into components. You have the angle given after the impact, use trigonometry.

[EDIT]

The first response is completely off. The second one seems right to me as well.
 

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