How Does Phasor Simplification Apply to wLT /_ theta?

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The discussion revolves around the application of phasor simplification in the context of electrical circuits, specifically relating to the expression wLT /_ theta and its transformation into a product of phasors involving constants w, L, and T.

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  • Participants are exploring how the expression wLT /_ theta can be represented as a product of two phasors, questioning the validity and origin of this transformation.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between sinusoidal voltage and phasors, while others are seeking clarification on the notation and the implications of phase differences in the context of inductors. There is an ongoing exploration of the mathematical representation without a clear consensus on the interpretation.

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Can someone explain how wLT /_ theta

could be written as wL /_ theta X T /_ (theta - 90)

(w, L and T are all constants)

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eterna said:

Homework Statement



Can someone explain how wLT /_ theta

could be written as wL /_ theta X T /_ (theta - 90)

(w, L and T are all constants)

By wL /_ theta X T /_ (theta - 90)

do you mean ##\omega L \angle\theta\times T\angle (\theta-90^\circ)## ?

Following:
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Phasor

You seem to be asking how we can say:$$\omega LT e^{i\theta} = \omega L e^{i\theta}Te^{i(\theta-\frac{\pi}{2})}$$ ... multiply it out and see what the phasor looks like.

Where did you get this relation from?
 
Simon Bridge said:
By wL /_ theta X T /_ (theta - 90)

do you mean ##\omega L \angle\theta\times T\angle (\theta-90^\circ)## ?

Following:
http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Phasor

You seem to be asking how we can say:$$\omega LT e^{i\theta} = \omega L e^{i\theta}Te^{i(\theta-\frac{\pi}{2})}$$ ... multiply it out and see what the phasor looks like.

Where did you get this relation from?

The book says that a sinusoidal voltage v(t)=Vcos(wt+ ##\theta##) can be defined by the phasor V=V##\angle \theta## where ##\theta## is the phase angle

The actual relation is
V=##wLI\angle \theta##
and that it can be written in the form
V=##(wL\angle\theta)## x ##I\angle(\theta-90)##

so then that should mean ##wLIe^{(wt+\theta)}## can be written in the form
##wL e^{(wt+\theta)}Ie^{(wt+\theta-90)}##...?
 
eterna said:
The book says that a sinusoidal voltage v(t)=Vcos(wt+ ##\theta##) can be defined by the phasor V=V##\angle \theta## where ##\theta## is the phase angle

So ##v(t)=Re[Ye^{\omega t}]## so ##Y=Ve^{j\theta}## and you write it as ##Y=V\angle\theta##

so then that should mean ##wLIe^{(wt+\theta)}## can be written in the form
##wL e^{(wt+\theta)}Ie^{(wt+\theta-90)}##...?

You should be able to translate the notation back into the cosine form to see what is happening.
I have a feeling your book is trying to talk about the phase difference between the voltage across an inductor and the current through it.
 

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