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Assuming x>y>0, which is larger, ##x-y## or ##x+y##?paulimerci said:how should I do that? Can you give an example?
What about ##\frac 1{x-y}## and ##\frac 1{x+y}##?
The discussion revolves around comparing the applied force in two different scenarios involving forces acting on an object at angles above and below the horizontal. The subject area includes concepts of forces, normal force, and friction in a physics context.
There is ongoing exploration of the relationships between the forces involved. Some participants have provided guidance on deriving expressions and clarifying the assumptions regarding the normal force. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being discussed, and participants are encouraged to refine their reasoning and calculations.
Participants note the importance of using consistent notation for forces and the potential confusion arising from assuming the normal force is the same in both cases. The discussion also highlights the need for careful algebraic manipulation and the implications of the angle of the applied force on the normal force and friction.
Assuming x>y>0, which is larger, ##x-y## or ##x+y##?paulimerci said:how should I do that? Can you give an example?
X+y and 1/(x+y) are greater.haruspex said:Assuming x>y>0, which is larger, ##x-y## or ##x+y##?
What about ##\frac 1{x-y}## and ##\frac 1{x+y}##?
3>2, so is 1/3 >1/2 or 1/2>1/3?paulimerci said:X+y and 1/(x+y) are greater.
Right, so if ##x+y>x-y## is ##\frac 1{x+y}>\frac1{x-y}## or ##\frac 1{x+y}<\frac1{x-y}##.paulimerci said:1/2>1/3
Right, so is FA or FB the greater?paulimerci said:1/(x+y) < 1/(x-y)
FB is greaterharuspex said:Right, so is FA or FB the greater?
Right. All clear now?paulimerci said:FB is greater
Yes @haruspex , Thank you!haruspex said:Right. All clear now?
We also need the condition ##x > y## here.haruspex said:Right, so if ##x+y>x-y## is ##\frac 1{x+y}>\frac1{x-y}## or ##\frac 1{x+y}<\frac1{x-y}##.
Yes, that was specified in post #31.PeroK said:We also need the condition ##x > y## here.