How Does Pilot Wave Theory Address Spontaneous Particle Transitions?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around how pilot wave theory addresses the concept of spontaneous particle transitions in quantum mechanics, particularly in relation to virtual particles and their implications. Participants explore the interpretation of quantum phenomena, including the behavior of particles like electrons and photons, within the framework of pilot wave theory.

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  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions how pilot wave theory accounts for spontaneous transitions of particles into other forms, referencing the idea that particles can exist as combinations of other particles.
  • Another participant argues that virtual particles are mathematical constructs rather than physical entities, suggesting that they do not exist in a tangible sense.
  • A different participant supports the notion that virtual particles are approximations in quantum field theory and mentions that lattice theories can yield the same predictions without invoking virtual particles.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether a real particle, such as an electron, can ever spontaneously change into another particle pair, questioning the accuracy of the claim that particles spend time as combinations of others.
  • One participant asserts that an electron always remains an electron, implying that spontaneous transitions do not occur.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

The discussion contains multiple competing views regarding the nature of virtual particles and the implications for pilot wave theory. There is no consensus on whether particles can spontaneously transition into other forms, as participants express differing interpretations of the underlying concepts.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various theoretical frameworks, including quantum field theory and lattice field theory, without resolving the implications of these frameworks on the nature of particle transitions. The discussion reflects differing interpretations of quantum mechanics and the role of virtual particles.

asimov42
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Hi all,

I've recently been reading a little bit about pilot wave theory (as a physics novice). It's an interesting interpretation of quantum mechanics, but I'm wondering (apologies that this is in very non-technical terms):

I can understand how the pilot wave interpretation leads to same results as 'standard' quantum mechanics for, e.g., the double slit experiment, where an ensemble of trials will show the expected interference pattern.

But isn't it also the case that a particle should with some probability spontaneously transition to form other particles (e.g., a photon spends some time as an electron-positron pair)? That is, as discussed at, e.g., http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-virtual-particles-rea/

From the above article, "quantum theory predicts that every particle spends some time as a combination of other particles in all possible ways."

Isn't this type of occurrence essentially random, and if so, how does the pilot wave interpretation deal with this?

Thanks.

J.
 
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asimov42 said:
But isn't it also the case that a particle should with some probability spontaneously transition to form other particles (e.g., a photon spends some time as an electron-positron pair)? That is, as discussed at, e.g., http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-virtual-particles-rea/

Its this virtual particle stuff.

Despite reputable sources like Scientific American saying things like that its wrong:
http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/4349/are-w-z-bosons-virtual-or-not/22064#22064

They don't really exist - they are simply mathematical artefacts of the perturbation methods that is usually used to do the calculations. There are other ways of doing the calculations such as lattice field theory where they don't even appear.

Thanks
Bill
 
As bhobba says, the virtual particles are an approximation used in quantum field theory. At least for QED, one can make a lattice theory which gives all the same predictions, eg. http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-lat/0211036. Because a lattice theory with small but finite spacing in finite volume is just ordinary quantum mechanics, the pilot wave theory is probably able to deal with it, eg. http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/0611032.
 
Thanks Bill, atyy,

So then can one consider a real particle, say an electron, as always 'being' an electron? (assuming it's not annihilated by a positron at some point) That is, if we consider an electron moving in free space, will it never undergo a spontaneous change to another particle pair and back? I guess I"m asking if the statement from Scientific American that "quantum theory predicts that every particle spends some time as a combination of other particles in all possible ways" incorrect?

J.
 
Yes. An electron always remains an electron.

Thanks
Bill
 

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