How Does Projectile Motion Affect a Stone Thrown from a Cliff?

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The discussion revolves around a projectile motion problem involving a stone thrown horizontally from a cliff that is 45 meters high. Participants are exploring the time it takes for the stone to reach the sea, as well as the horizontal distance traveled and total displacement.

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  • Participants are attempting to apply kinematic equations to determine the time of flight for both vertical and horizontal motions. There is confusion regarding the initial conditions for the stone's motion and the implications of dropping versus throwing the stone.

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Some participants have provided calculations for the time it takes for the stone to fall vertically, while others are questioning the assumptions made about initial velocity and the separation of horizontal and vertical components of motion. Guidance has been offered regarding the need to consider the vertical motion separately.

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There is a noted misunderstanding regarding the initial velocity when the stone is dropped versus when it is thrown. Additionally, the discussion includes references to kinematic equations and the need to clarify the coordinate system being used.

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1. Someone throws a stone horizontally from the top of a cliff and out to the sea. The top of the cliff is 45 metres above the sea. The initial speed of the stone is 30 m/s.

a) if the stone had been dropped vertically, how long would it have taken to reach the sea?

b) when the stone is thrown horizontally, how long does it take to reach the sea?

c) what horizontal distance does the stone travel before hitting the sea?

d) what is the total displacement of the store from it's original point?




2. I will be combining both equations and attempted solutions.


For a) : speed=distance/time
Therefore: s=d/t
st=d
t=d/s
t=45m/30ms
t= 1.5 s?

I am clueless about b, c and d :cry:

Please help

 
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Your first answer is incorrect, since you did not include the acceleration due to the Earth's gravity. Also, part (a) says the stone is dropped off the cliff. This implies that the initial velocity is zero. Have you come across the kinematic equations for constant acceleration? http://www.glenbrook.k12.il.us/GBSSCI/PHYS/Class/1DKin/U1L6a.html
 
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So:

s=ut + 1/2 at^2

45 = 0*t + (1/2*10) *t^2
45= 0 + 5t^2
45=5t^2
45/5=t^2
9=t^2
square root of 9 = t
therefore: t=3 secs?
 
Correct.

Now, for the other parts, you need to split up the motion into horizontal and vertical components. So, for (b) you want the time taken for the stone to reach s=0.
 
I don't understand what you mean by 'time taken for the stone to reach s=0.'
 
Well, if you take the sea as the origin of your coordinate system, and consider the vertical motion. Then, the time taken for the stone to hit the sea is the time taken for the stone to reach postion y=0.
 

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