How Does Raising e^(2*pi*i) = 1 to the Power of 1/(2*pi*i) Work?

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The discussion revolves around the expression \( e^{2\pi i} = 1 \) and the implications of raising it to the power of \( \frac{1}{2\pi i} \). Participants explore the behavior of complex exponentiation and the nuances that arise when extending real number rules to the complex plane.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the statement \( e^{2\pi i} = 1 \) when raised to the power of \( \frac{1}{2\pi i} \), suggesting it leads to contradictory results.
  • Another participant asserts that the rules of exponentiation for real numbers do not apply in the same way to complex numbers, indicating a misunderstanding in the initial claim.
  • A later reply clarifies that the exponentiation rule \( (a^b)^c = a^{bc} \) is only valid for real numbers \( a \geq 0 \) and does not hold in the complex plane.
  • Further exploration reveals that raising \( e^{2\pi i} \) to the power of \( \frac{1}{2\pi i} \) can yield multiple values due to the nature of the logarithm in the complex plane, specifically noting that \( \ln(1) \) can equal \( 2k\pi i \) for any integer \( k \).
  • It is suggested that this leads to multiple outcomes, including \( 1 \) and \( e \), depending on the integer \( k \) chosen.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are competing views on the application of exponentiation rules in the complex plane and the implications of the logarithm of \( 1 \).

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in understanding complex exponentiation and the dependence on definitions of logarithmic functions in different contexts. The nuances of complex numbers introduce complexities that are not present in real number arithmetic.

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I saw this the other day and I don't understand how complex numbers work well enough to disprove it:

e^(2*pi*i) = 1

e^(2*pi*i)^(1/(2*pi*i)) = 1^(1/(2*pi*i))

Then the left side equals e and the right side equals 1.
 
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Perhaps you ought to learn enough about complex numbers so that you don't make a wild goose chase trying to disprove a provable true statement.

Your error lies in assuming that the rules for exponentiation that are valid for real numbers are valid for complex number.

They are not; rather, real number exponentiation is a special case of how exponentiation works in the complex number plane.
 
so e = 1 in a complex number plane?
 
No. What he is trying to say is that the rule for exponentiation [tex]\left(a^b\right)^c=a^{bc}[/tex] is only valid when dealing with real numbers, [tex]a\geq 0[/tex]. When you extend into the complex plane, this rule breaks down.
 
ok cool. thanks! so what really happens when you raise e^(2*pi*i) = 1 to the power of 1/(2*pi*i)?
 
nameonascreen said:
ok cool. thanks! so what really happens when you raise e^(2*pi*i) = 1 to the power of 1/(2*pi*i)?
Since [itex]2\pi[/itex] is irrational, there will be an infinite number of values. One of them, of course, will be 1.

In general, to find [itex]a^r[/itex] for general complex numbers you use [itex]a^r= e^{ln(a^r)}= e^{r ln(a)}[/itex].

Here, because [itex]1/(2\pi i)= -i/(2\pi)[/itex] that would be
[tex]e^{-\frac{i}{2\pi}ln(1)}[/tex]

Now, restricted to the real numbers, ln(1)= 0 so that would give [itex]e^0= 1[/itex]. But in the complex numbers, [itex]ln(1)= 2k\pi i[/itex] for any integer k.

That is,
[tex]1^{\frac{1}{2\pi i}}= e^{-\frac{i}{2\pi}2k\pi i}= e^k[/tex]
for any integer k. Of course, k=0 gives 1, and k= 1 gives e, your two values.
 

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