How Does Rotational Inertia Affect the Motion of a Sphere on a Moving Ramp?

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The discussion focuses on the dynamics of a solid sphere rolling up a moving ramp, specifically addressing the calculations for the speed of the ball and ramp at the highest point, the distance the ball travels up the incline, and the final speeds after the ball rolls back down. The speed of the ball and ramp at the highest point is determined to be one-third of the initial speed (vf = 1/3v). The distance L that the ball rolls up the incline is calculated as L = (8v²/15g) csc(θ). The discussion emphasizes the use of conservation of momentum and conservation of energy principles to solve the problems.

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  • Understanding of rotational inertia, specifically I = 2/5 mr² for a solid sphere
  • Knowledge of conservation of momentum and conservation of energy principles
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  • Basic trigonometry, particularly the sine and cosecant functions
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1. Homework Statement

A solid sphere (mass of m, radius of r and I=2/5 mr2) is rolling without slipping on
a rough surface with a speed of v. A ramp (mass of 2m and angle of θ) rests on a
smooth surface and is free to slide on the surface. As the ball rolls up the ramp, the
ramp begins to move. Provide all answers in terms of the given variables and any
fundamental constants.

A. What will be the speed of the ball/ramp when the ball reaches its highest point on
the ramp?

B. What distance L will the ball roll up the incline?

C. What will be the speeds of the ball and the ramp after the ball rolls back down off
of the ramp?

Homework Equations


Conservation of Momentum, Conservation of Energy

The Attempt at a Solution


A. mv=(m+2m)v
mv=3mv
vf=1/3v

B.
we now have vf which is v/3 we can solve

ΣEi=1/2 Iω2+1/2mv2=

1/2(2/5mr2)(v/r)2+1/2mv2=

1/5mr2+1/2mv2=7/10mv2

ΣEf=mgh+1/2*3mvf2=

mgh+1/2*3m(v/3)2=

mgh+1/6mv2=7/10 mv2

h=8v2/15g

L=(8v2/15g) cscΘ

c. I would like guidance on how to solve c.
I know it uses energy, but I'm stuck on this one
 
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Benton said:
c. I would like guidance on how to solve c.
I know it uses energy, but I'm stuck on this one
Once again, momentum and energy are conserved.
 
You'll need both energy and momentum for (c). It is probably easier to start in the frame where (ramp+ball) start at rest.

Technical detail for (b): It is beyond the scope of this problem, but in general you will get losses due to internal friction when a ball hits an incline like that.
 

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