How Does Squaring Final Velocity Impact Spring Problem Solutions?

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving the conservation of momentum and energy in the context of a spring system. Participants are examining how squaring the final velocity impacts the calculations related to kinetic energy and spring potential energy.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of conservation laws, specifically momentum and energy, to relate the velocities and displacements in the spring problem. There are mentions of algebraic mistakes and the importance of squaring the velocity in kinetic energy calculations.

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The discussion has seen some productive exchanges, with participants offering guidance on using conservation principles and clarifying the importance of squaring the final velocity in the kinetic energy term. However, there is no explicit consensus on the overall approach yet.

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Some participants note potential algebraic errors and emphasize the need to correctly apply the formulas related to kinetic and potential energy in the context of the problem.

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solved thanks to dicerandom... i forgot that vf is squared in the second formula. thanks so much
 
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Your approach sounds good, I think you probably just made an algebraic mistake somewhere along the way. Use conservation of momentum to find the velocity of the bullet+block system in terms of the bullet's initial velocity, then use conservation of energy to relate the velocity of the bullet+block to the displacement of the spring.

Edit: Just for reference...

Conservation of momentum: [tex]m_i v_i = m_f v_f[/tex]
Kinetic energy: [tex]\frac{1}{2} m v^2[/tex]
Spring potential energy: [tex]\frac{1}{2} k x^2[/tex]
 
Looks like you forgot to square the velocity in you kinetic energy term.
 
thanks a lot :!)
 
My pleasure :smile:
 

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