How Does the Center of Mass Move in a Block and Wedge System?

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The problem involves a block sliding down a rough inclined surface of a wedge that rests on a frictionless horizontal surface. Participants are discussing the motion of the center of mass of the block and wedge system during this interaction.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to reason how the center of mass moves based on the block's motion, while others question the definitions and relationships of the variables involved, such as M_1, M_2, V_1, and V_2. There are also inquiries about the mathematical relationships and alternative methods to approach the problem.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants seeking clarification on the definitions and relationships of the variables. Some guidance has been offered regarding the definition of the center of mass and its relation to the forces acting on the system, but multiple interpretations and lines of reasoning are still being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem is intended to be non-calculus based, which may influence the methods discussed. There is also mention of missing information regarding the equations and their implications.

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Homework Statement


A large wedge rests on a horizontal frictionless surface. A block starts from rest and slides down the inclined surface of the wedge, which is rough. During the motion of the block, the center of mass of the block and wedge.

a. does not move.
b. moves horizontally with constant speed.
c. moves horizontally with increasing speed
d. moves vertically with increasing speed
e. moves both horizontally and vertically

The correct answer was d.


Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I reasoned that since the block would begin to slide down the inclined plane, the center of mass of the entire system would shift in relation to the position of the block. Therefore, the center of mass should move both horizontally and vertically.
 
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Does the following make any sense?
 

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Spinnor said:
Does the following make any sense?

I'm missing some minus signs. m1v1 not equal m2v2 should read m1v1 not equal -m2v2 and m1v1 = m2v2 should read m1v1 = -m2v2
 
Thanks for helping :D
However, I still don't get it. What exactly is M_1, M_2 and V_1 and V_2 in this case, and how do the initial equations arrive at the conclusion through the arrows? Could you please elaborate? I kind of see how the math works, but I don't know how it arrives at the conclusions. Also, would you happen to know of another way to solve this problem? The test that I'm taking this from was supposed to be non-calculus based, so would you happen to know an algebraic way to solve it too?

Once again, thanks.
 
To answer the problem, you need to know how the CM is defined, and how the acceleration of the CM is related to the forces acting on the system.

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