Maximizing Friction Coefficient for Block on a Wedge: A Calculus Approach

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The problem involves a block of mass m on a rough wedge inclined at an angle α, where the coefficient of kinetic friction varies with the distance down the slope. The objective is to determine the maximum value of the friction coefficient that allows the block to reach the bottom of the wedge.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between acceleration, distance, and time, with some suggesting the use of the chain rule to relate these variables. There is uncertainty about how to express acceleration in terms of time versus distance.

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Participants are exploring different methods to integrate the acceleration expression, with some proposing potential equations for the friction coefficient. There is a recognition of dimensional inconsistencies in some approaches, and requests for further clarification on the workings presented.

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Some participants express confusion regarding the dependence of distance on time and the implications for integrating acceleration. There is an emphasis on ensuring dimensional consistency in the equations used.

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Homework Statement


A block of mass m is placed on a rough wedge inclined at an angle α to the horizontal, a distance d up the slope from the bottom of the wedge. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and wedge is given by µ_0x/d, where x is the distance down the slope from the starting point. Calculate the maximum value of µ_0 which will allow the block to reach the bottom of the wedge.

2. The attempt at a solution
After drawing a diagram and resolving the forces I found the acceleration of the block in terms of x:
$$a(x)=g(\sin(\theta)-x\frac{µ_0}{d}\cos(\theta))$$
I don't know how to proceed further, given that the acceleration is defined over x rather than t, which prevents me from simply integrating this expression. I suspect the chain rule could be useful (a=\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}), but here again, I don't know how x depends on t.
 
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Silicon-Based said:

Homework Statement


A block of mass m is placed on a rough wedge inclined at an angle α to the horizontal, a distance d up the slope from the bottom of the wedge. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the block and wedge is given by µ_0x/d, where x is the distance down the slope from the starting point. Calculate the maximum value of µ_0 which will allow the block to reach the bottom of the wedge.

2. The attempt at a solution
After drawing a diagram and resolving the forces I found the acceleration of the block in terms of x:
$$a(x)=g(\sin(\theta)-x\frac{µ_0}{d}\cos(\theta))$$
I don't know how to proceed further, given that the acceleration is defined over x rather than t, which prevents me from simply integrating this expression. I suspect the chain rule could be useful (a=\frac{dv}{dt}=\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}), but here again, I don't know how x depends on t.
If you rewrite the equation as ##\ddot x+Bx+C=0##, does it remind you of anything?
Alternatively, use that chain rule, but remember that dx/dt is v.
 
Update:

If I were to integrate the acceleration with respect to time I would get:
$$v(x,t)=g(\sin(\theta)-x\frac{\mu_0}{d}\cos(\theta))t$$ Knowing that the maximum occurs when v(x=d)=0, this equation gives \mu_0=\tan(\theta).

Alternatively, the chain rule gives a=\frac{dv}{dx}v, so $$\int a dx=\int v dv$$ Again, applying the above condition, I end up with \mu_0=2g\tan(\theta). Which one is correct?
 
Silicon-Based said:
Update:

If I were to integrate the acceleration with respect to time I would get:
$$v(x,t)=g(\sin(\theta)-x\frac{\mu_0}{d}\cos(\theta))t$$ Knowing that the maximum occurs when v(x=d)=0, this equation gives \mu_0=\tan(\theta).

Alternatively, the chain rule gives a=\frac{dv}{dx}v, so $$\int a dx=\int v dv$$ Again, applying the above condition, I end up with \mu_0=2g\tan(\theta). Which one is correct?
Neither.
The first is wrong because you cannot integrate x wrt t merely by multiplying it by t. x depends on t.
The second cannot be right because it is dimensionally wrong. You have a dimensionless number on the left and an acceleration on the right. But the method looks ok, so please post your working.
 

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