How Does the Energy Principle Help Calculate Work Needed to Move a Satellite?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work needed to move a satellite from its orbit to a location far from Earth, utilizing both the momentum and energy principles. The problem involves gravitational forces, orbital mechanics, and energy considerations related to a satellite of mass 7000 kg orbiting Earth.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the use of the energy principle and momentum principle, questioning the appropriate equations for calculating work and escape velocity. There is discussion about the relationship between kinetic energy and gravitational potential energy in the context of moving the satellite.

Discussion Status

Some participants have shared their attempts at applying the energy principle, while others encourage sharing even incorrect attempts for correction. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly set up the equations and what assumptions may need to be reconsidered.

Contextual Notes

Participants note uncertainty regarding the correct application of equations, particularly in relation to whether the planet should be included in the system. There is also mention of constraints related to homework rules and the need for guidance in the problem-solving process.

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Homework Statement



In certain cases, using both the momentum principle and energy principle to analyze a system is useful, as they each can reveal different information. You will use the both momentum principle and the energy principle in this problem.

A satellite of mass 7000 kg orbits the Earth in a circular orbit of radius of 8.6 106 m (this is above the Earth's atmosphere).The mass of the Earth is 6.0 1024 kg.
What is the magnitude of the gravitational force on the satellite due to the earth?
F = 37,714 N

Using the momentum principle, find the speed of the satellite in orbit.
v = 6906.93 m/s

Using the energy principle, find the minimum amount of work needed to move the satellite from this orbit to a location very far away from the Earth. (You can think of this energy as being supplied by work due to something outside of the system of the Earth and the satellite.)
work = ?

Homework Equations


for this problem, I seriously don't know, I was working with escape speed (mv^2)/2 + (-Gmm/R) = 0, but that includes the planet as the system, which I am not sure I should

The Attempt at a Solution



help, like my attempt probably was wrong. and would lead off track
 
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it's ok if it's wrong, just post the attempt and it can be corrected.
 
okay here's my attempt

I said that (V being the initial velocity) (mv^2)/2 + (-Gmm/R) = 0 would give the initial velocity to escape the pull of gravity. Which in turn means that moving Gmm/r to the other side would give us the necessary kinetic energy to escape Earth's gravitational pull. (or the energy that gravity is applying)

So if I subtract the initial kinetic energy the spaceship has from the initial kinetic energy required to hit escape velocity, would that be correct?
 
couldn't get it :/ bummer
 

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