How Does the Time Derivative of Electric Field Cross with Magnetic Field?

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The discussion revolves around the mathematical manipulation of the time derivative of the electric field crossed with the magnetic field, specifically examining the expression \(\frac{\delta\vec E}{\delta t}\times \vec B\). Participants are exploring identities and rules that may simplify this cross product within the context of electromagnetism.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants inquire about the functional dependence of the electric field on time and the coordinate system used for the cross product. There is mention of the product rule for derivatives and a suggestion to consider the determinant form of the cross product.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants asking clarifying questions and providing partial guidance regarding the use of the product rule and the determinant form. There is an acknowledgment of the need for specific expressions for the electric and magnetic fields to proceed further.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the electric field is a function of time and that a Cartesian coordinate system is being used for the analysis. There is an implication that additional information about the fields may be necessary for a complete discussion.

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Hi, my question is the following:

[itex] \frac{\delta\vec E}{\delta t}\times \vec B = ?[/itex]
In other words, how can i develop this cross product.
Are there any identity that reduces this product?
Thanks.
 
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Do you have E as a function of time? What coordinate system are you taking the cross product in?
 
of course E is a function of time, and i think for simplicity the coordinate system is cartesian. Thanks
 
There is the product rule d/dt(E x B) = dE/dt x B + E x dB/dt. That's about all I can tell you unless you give us what E and B are explicitly (which is what I think berkeman was asking).
 
gjfelix2006 said:
of course E is a function of time, and i think for simplicity the coordinate system is cartesian. Thanks
Fair enough. Take the derivative and use the determinant form of the cross product. That should get you what you need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_product
 

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