How Does the Triangle Inequality Apply to Complex Numbers?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the application of the triangle inequality to complex numbers, specifically exploring the inequality \(2|z||w| \leq |z|^2 + |w|^2\). Participants are examining various approaches to prove this inequality, including algebraic manipulations and geometric interpretations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes proving the inequality \(2|z||w| \leq |z|^2 + |w|^2\) directly.
  • Another suggests using the expression \((|z| - |w|)^2 \geq 0\) as a starting point for the proof.
  • A participant expands on the previous point, stating that \((|z| - |w|)^2 = |z|^2 + |w|^2 - 2\Re(zw^*)\) and notes the challenge in reaching the conclusion.
  • Another participant confirms that expanding \((|z| - |w|)^2\) leads to the inequality, providing a detailed breakdown of the terms involved.
  • One participant introduces an alternative approach using the arithmetic-geometric mean to relate the terms, but questions how the expression for \((|z| - |w|)^2\) was derived.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple approaches to the problem, and while some methods are discussed in detail, there is no consensus on a single method or resolution to the inequality. The discussion remains unresolved with competing viewpoints.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty regarding the derivation of certain expressions and the steps needed to complete the proof. The discussion highlights dependencies on definitions and assumptions related to complex numbers and their magnitudes.

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let z,w be complex numbers. Prove:

2|z||w| <_ |z|^2 + |w|^2
 
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Well, you could note that $(|z| - |w|)^2 \geq 0$ and work from there.
 
0<_ (|z|-|w|)^2=|z|^2+|w|^2-2Re(zw*).

Ok so I can say Re(zw*)<_|zw*|=|zw| but that doesn't quite get me there.
 
They are both real numbers, so when you expand $(|z| - |w|)^2$ you get $|z|^2 - 2|z| |w| + |w|^2 \geq 0$, hence the result.

There is the alternative of using that

$$|z|^2 + |w|^2 = \Re^2 (z) + \Im^2 (z) + \Re^2 (w) + \Im^2(w)$$

and

$$2|z||w| = 2 \sqrt{\Re^2 (z) + \Im^2 (z) } \sqrt{\Re^2 (w) + \Im^2 (w)} = 2 \sqrt{(\Re^2 (z) + \Im^2 (z))(\Re^2 (w) + \Im^2 (w))}.$$

Now, $a = \Re^2 (z) + \Im^2 (z)$ is a positive real number, same as $b = \Re^2 (w) + \Im^2 (w)$. This is the arithmetic geometric mean written in a different way:

$$\frac{a+b}{2} \geq \sqrt{ab} \implies \frac{\Re^2 (z) + \Im^2 (z) + \Re^2 (w) + \Im^2(w)}{2} \geq \sqrt{(\Re^2 (z) + \Im^2 (z))(\Re^2 (w) + \Im^2 (w))}.$$

How did you get that $(|z| - |w|)^2 = |z|^2 + |w|^2 - 2 \Re (z \bar{w})$?
 

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