How Does Throwing a Sack Affect Scale Readings?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a man standing on a scale while holding a sack of potatoes. The question focuses on the scale reading at the moment before the sack is thrown upwards, exploring the interaction of forces and the implications of Newton's laws in this context.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relevance of the mass of the sack in relation to the man's mass and question the assumptions made about the forces acting on the scale. There is an exploration of Newton's Third Law and the forces involved in the scenario.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance by prompting further consideration of the forces acting on the man and the sack, while others are questioning the initial assumptions regarding the contributions of the sack to the scale reading.

Contextual Notes

There is a focus on the moment just before the sack is released, and participants are examining the dynamics of the situation, including the forces at play and their interactions.

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Homework Statement


A man with a mass of 100kg stands on a scale with a sack of potatoes weighing 20kg. He throws the sack straight up. At the instant before he releases the sack, what does the scale read, in kg?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I assumed that because the sack had sufficient velocity to overcome gravity and continue moving once released, its mass is negligible with respect to the scale, and the scale should read 100kg
 
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20kg is not negligible compared with 100kg. Think about Newton's Third Law and forces.
 
Ok not negligible, i misspoke. I assumed that since that since F(of the sack on the person)=ma and the acceleration was positive rather than negavite, the sack did not contribute anything to the force of the person on the scale.
 
Opteron said:
Ok not negligible, i misspoke. I assumed that since that since F(of the sack on the person)=ma and the acceleration was positive rather than negavite, the sack did not contribute anything to the force of the person on the scale.

What are all of the forces acting on the bodies on the scale? Which two cancel?
 

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