How Does Wireless Power Transmission Work?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the mechanisms and feasibility of wireless power transmission, including concepts such as resonant coupling between coils, the potential for solar power satellites, and the efficiency of various transmission methods. Participants explore theoretical underpinnings, practical implementations, and historical references.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants explain that wireless power transmission involves alternating current passing through one coil to induce a current in another, suggesting a coupling mechanism akin to mechanical resonance.
  • Questions arise regarding the concept of eigenmagnetic frequencies and how they facilitate coupling between coils, with some participants expressing confusion about the straightforwardness of the technology.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of widespread implementation and skepticism about the claims of efficiency and performance made by companies like WiTricity.
  • Some participants reference historical figures like Tesla and express doubts about the romanticized views of his ideas, suggesting that many claims in the field lack rigorous scrutiny.
  • There is a discussion about the potential for solar power satellites to transmit energy via microwaves, with some participants questioning whether energy conversion occurs in space or upon reaching Earth.
  • One participant mentions a NASA experiment that achieved significant power transmission efficiency, while others express skepticism about the feasibility of large-scale microwave power transmission due to safety concerns.
  • Participants debate the practicality of ground-based solar receivers compared to space-based systems, with some arguing that terrestrial solutions may be more efficient.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views, with some agreeing on the basic principles of wireless power transmission while others remain skeptical about its practical applications and efficiency. Multiple competing perspectives exist regarding the feasibility of solar power satellites and the safety of microwave transmission.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in current technology, including efficiency, transmission distance, and safety concerns regarding microwave power transmission. There are unresolved questions about the assumptions underlying claims made by proponents of wireless power systems.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those exploring advancements in wireless power technology, the theoretical aspects of electromagnetic coupling, and the practical implications of solar power satellite systems.

  • #31
There's no inverse square law problem with directed or focused EM waves energy beams. Problems are of other kinds.
 
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  • #32
zoki85 said:
Problems are of other kinds.
Would you include the size and aiming of the antennas as a problem?
 
  • #33
Baluncore said:
Would you include the size and aiming of the antennas as a problem?
Yes. Preceise beam pointing to the rectantenna site on the ground is of crucial importance in such transmission. Needless to say, it requires special technology and methods.
 
  • #34
zoki85 said:
There's no inverse square law problem with directed or focused EM waves energy beams. Problems are of other kinds.
You cannot beat the inverse square law, once the distance is great enough. Spreading loss is always with us and using directive antennae only increases the gain in a particular direction.
The fancy stuff with metamaterials presupposed you can stick the (equivalent of a) lens between transmitter and receiver and that presupposes that you have somewhere to mount it.
"Special technology and methods" smacks a bit too much of Magic, rather than Engineering.
 
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  • #35
zoki85 said:
Yes. Preceise beam pointing to the rectantenna site on the ground is of crucial importance in such transmission. Needless to say, it requires special technology and methods.

I understand the incredible technical challenge of efficient microwave energy transfer from space to Earth because I have done my time in antenna design and in the tracking systems of big dish antennas for radio astronomy.

The size and surface phase accuracy of the antennas required for efficient energy transfer from space to Earth is fundamental to countering the inverse square law. Space power will be uneconomic on Earth unless we can find a practical parallel ray energy transfer mechanism.
 
  • #36
sophiecentaur said:
Spreading loss is always with us and using directive antennae only increases the gain in a particular direction.
Point is that distance is close enough so that spreading loss can be made small enough.
The fancy stuff with metamaterials presupposed you can stick the (equivalent of a) lens between transmitter and receiver and that presupposes that you have somewhere to mount it.
I am not familar with proposed use of metamaterials included anywhere in space between satellites and ground receiver.
Would you give us references?
"Special technology and methods" smacks a bit too much of Magic, rather than Engineering.
There are lot of papers published in per review journals about these technologies and their state of art. It's not magic, it can be done. Much bigger problems are very high price for installation, and question if the expense can be justifyed or not (personally, I don't so). OTOH, there are other very costly power energetic programs like ITER , which are much more important.
 

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