How does your Garden grow? part 2

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Oh well, speaking about blooms and all.

A woman in a red sleeveless top and black trousers sits on a green plastic chair on lawn, writing in a notebook beside a large white-flowering shrub.
 
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I've picked a huge amount of very sweet cherry tomatoes this year.
Several tomato plants growing in a garden bed with green stakes, bearing many orange and yellow cherry tomatoes, with dark green edging around the plant bases and a chain-link fence behind.

Backyard vegetable garden with staked tomato plants bearing green and ripening red tomatoes, growing in dark circular containers beside chive-like herbs and bare soil paths.


The yard edging around the plants also makes keeping it clean easy.
 
Nice haul NSA! I'm not getting squat for some reason. I had to move the plants to the front porch due to the squirrels in the back stealing tomatoes. I have one tomato starting to ripen and maybe a dozen tiny green ones, the peppers have all failed so far, get a few the size of my thumb starting to turn red already, no peppers at all on three plants and one on another. I just do not get it, I'm doing what all I always do. maybe due to the cold, wet spring and early summer they are just behind schedule and they will suddenly be packed with small fruit a week before the first killing frost.
 
This morning the wife tells me there are raccoons living under the garden and tool sheds (it never ends :H). I'll try the high-tech solution first to move them out with a few junk fire strobe lights connected to old car batteries. If I hear a dance party the next day then it's on to stage II chemical warfare.

Two pink plastic housings with clear yellowed plastic windows, each containing a flash tube, sitting on a light surface, likely the junk strobe lights mentioned.
 
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Just came in from collecting this stuff. It's a start considering having to start over twice because of hungry deer..

Kitchen countertop with harvested vegetables: zucchini on the left, yellow wax peppers, small dark green jalapeño-type peppers, large green peppers on the right, a cluster of red tomatoes, and three brown and one white egg near a microwave.
 
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dlgoff said:
Just came in from collecting this stuff. It's a start considering having to start over twice because of hungry deer..

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Lovely, the small courgettes are great when hollowed out (the seedy bit) and filled with http://allrecipes.com/recipe/spaghetti-sauce-with-ground-beef/ with cheese on top.
Pop in the oven and bam! great dish with lots of vegetables.

Blanching them first is recommended.
 
JorisL said:
Lovely, the small courgettes are great when hollowed out (the seedy bit) and filled with http://allrecipes.com/recipe/spaghetti-sauce-with-ground-beef/ with cheese on top.
Pop in the oven and bam! great dish with lots of vegetables.

Blanching them first is recommended.
I had baked up a huge overlooked zucchini, cajun style, the day before and had it along with bacon and every veggie you see in the pic last night. All the peppers were so fresh and delicate they almost melted in my mouth. Probably should give the recipe (all the spices & extras) for the baked zucchini in the food thread.
 
dlgoff said:
I had baked up a huge overlooked zucchini, cajun style, the day before and had it along with bacon and every veggie you see in the pic last night. All the peppers were so fresh and delicate they almost melted in my mouth. Probably should give the recipe (all the spices & extras) for the baked zucchini in the food thread.
Yes, please do.
 
I've been hesitant about posting anything about my gutter garden, which I started around June 1st of last year, as I wasn't really sure it would work.
So far, it has worked.

It was inspired by a Facebook post by my cousin in Arizona.
I love strawberries, so the image made me drool. :smile:

Rows of ripe red strawberries hanging from white gutter planters on a raised structure, with green leaves and some unripe white and green berries visible.


The gutters looked like they were way up in the air, which struck me as impractical, so I designed one that was only a meter off the ground.
I'd heard that good fences make good neighbors, and I have the worlds best neighbor, so I decided to merge the two ideas, and make an awesome fence.
Evo once said that her plants roots were roasted in their pots, so I used that knowledge, to opt for white gutters.

Wooden framed platform on posts with a white board top, sitting in front of a dark parked car, with green shrubs and bare soil in the foreground and a blue barrel at right.


As some may remember, I accidentally planted a watermelon plant last year.
I decided that a gutter was no place for a watermelon, so I built a trellis type device.

Homemade gutter garden: a long white metal gutter on wooden posts at about waist height, planted with leafy herbs and greens, with a blue bucket beside it and a bundle of sticks supporting it.


It worked! But I thought it was a bit silly, so I pay attention now, and no longer do that.

Now, the following may not look like a garden, but it is relevant to the rest of the story. (And proof that a 1/3 hp 1955 electric motor, which I've been hoarding from my mom's old ringer washer WILL mow a lawn. )

Black push lawn mower with a grass catcher parked on a grassy strip beside a driveway, next to a dark sedan and a green recycling bin.


So, the garden was primarily supposed to be a strawberry garden, which I have never had luck with before, so I was not aware of how prolific they can be.
Each plant had at least 10 babies.
Er mehr gerd...

So being kind hearted, and not being a baby killer, I purchased two more gutters, and planted all the babies.

Several white rain gutters mounted on a wooden fence, each planted with strawberry plants with green leaves and some stones among the soil.


So then, I assumed that the original gutter garden, was some photoshopped thing, so I monitored my garden over the winter.

Handheld RadioShack infrared thermometer pointed at white gutters on a wooden fence, its display reading 22.5 with a MAX reading of 22.3.

December 2014.
22.5°F
I expected nothing to survive.

Fortunately, or unfortunately, most everything survived.
This created a quandary.
Do I go to the trouble of expanding the garden, or do I just leave it the way it is, as next year we may have a hyper-freeze, which will kill everything.
Being a sciencey kind of guy, I decided to expand.

But I've just been informed that I may not upload any more pictures. hmmmm... Perhaps I should have hosted them myself. hmmmmm...
Where's Greg when you need him, for advice?

[edit] never mind Greg! I fingered it out. :biggrin:
 
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OmCheeto said:
But I've just been informed that I may not upload any more pictures. hmmmm... Perhaps I should have hosted them myself. hmmmmm...
No more pictures at all or just in this post?

Om, thank you for sharing your raised garden, so clever.

I just picked my first 2 tomatoes, I hid the plants from the squirrels after the first raid. I have a few tiny (thumb size, cajun peppers, I might try them tonight). The poblanos have yet to produce, but one plant just started flowering, so there is yet hope.

On hot days, since my plants are in containers, when they start looking fried, I have been dousing the soil with pitchers of ice water, perks them right back up.
 
Evo said:
No more pictures at all or just in this post?

Om, thank you for sharing your raised garden, so clever.

I just picked my first 2 tomatoes, I hid the plants from the squirrels after the first raid. I have a few tiny (thumb size, cajun peppers, I might try them tonight). The poblanos have yet to produce, but one plant just started flowering, so there is yet hope.

On hot days, since my plants are in containers, when they start looking fried, I have been dousing the soil with pitchers of ice water, perks them right back up.
There's a limit of six photos per post I think.

Nice pictures Om! :woot:
 
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Macht's nichts!
Evo said:
No more pictures at all or just in this post?
I think it's just for the post. But it's a moot point now. As I told Marcus a few months back, I discovered that I have about 4 bazzilion bytes left on my personal account that I can host pictures at. :smile:
Om, thank you for sharing your raised garden, so clever.

I just picked my first 2 tomatoes, I hid the plants from the squirrels after the first raid. I have a few tiny (thumb size, cajun peppers, I might try them tonight). The poblanos have yet to produce, but one plant just started flowering, so there is yet hope.

On hot days, since my plants are in containers, when they start looking fried, I have been dousing the soil with pitchers of ice water, perks them right back up.

Gutter garden 2.0 to follow!
 
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So, for the last few months, I've invested nearly $100 in the expansion of the fence.
The original fence cost me about $8.
Everything except for the gutter was scrounged from around the house.

Backyard garden with a row of new wooden fence posts and rails along a lawn, with climbing plants growing along the top rail, a path and green wheelie bin beside the house.


But as you can see, in the above image, the strawberries and a few herbs, were the only kids in the gutter system.
There's a fish tank looking thing in the center, some big arsed plants to the left of that, and a meshy looking thing laying in the driveway.
At this point, I had designed a 3 dimensional fence garden, in my head.

Here's pretty much the final design, before everything was completed, and covered everything up.
Backyard garden with a wooden frame holding a curved wire mesh tunnel over raised planting areas, with tomato or other leafy plants growing along the top rail and in pots beside it.


And as far as the lawnmower picture from earlier?
Everything had to be elevated far enough off the ground, to be able to mow under it.
Wooden platform raised on four posts above grass, holding a black plastic pot with a leafy plant and a terracotta pot with a plant, with wire mesh fencing at the left and back.

It worked!

Ps. @zoobyshoe , I took your advice, and bought a new mower. Thank you!
 
OmCheeto said:
I've been hesitant about posting anything about my gutter garden, which I started around June 1st of last year, as I wasn't really sure it would work.
OmCheeto said:
Being a sciencey kind of guy, I decided to expand.
Nice fence Om. I think you should have started a thread "Beauty of old gutters etc" giving some sciencey info as you go; similar to my Beauty of old electrical and measuring things etc.
But what sciencey forum? :oldconfused:
 
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dlgoff said:
Nice fence Om. I think you should have started a thread "Beauty of old gutters etc" giving some sciencey info as you go; similar to my Beauty of old electrical and measuring things etc.
But what sciencey forum? :oldconfused:

I adapt to my environment. This forum will do. :smile:

Some notes I've taken:

Plants growing under the garden:
Lemon yellow cucumbers
Acorn squash

Plants growing from the platforms:
Italian roaster peppers
Long red cayenne peppers
3 types of basil
Rosemary
Cherry red, yellow pear, brandywine, roma, and black krim tomatoes

Plants growing in the gutters:
Strawberries! (wintered over!)
French Tarragon (wintered over!)
Dwarf Greek Oregano (wintered over!)
A tasty basil volunteer from last year.
An as yet unidentified tomato volunteer from last year. (Silly plant! You're a tomato! You can't grow in a gutter!)

hmmm...
The title of the thread is; "How does your garden grow"
Answer: Everything is doing fine!
:smile:
 
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My sciencey opinion of the merits of gutter gardens:

Neighborhood tom cats can't "mark" your garden food... :mad:
Slugs have yet to have made the journey. (You had a year. Is this why lazy humans are named after you?)
Weeding is as easy as picking your nose.
Cats are not interested in pooping in a gutter garden.
You never have to bend down!
 
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hmmm...

Sitting in my living room, I just spied upon some lady, eyeing my garden, scratching her head.
I went out and asked her, if I could answer any questions.

She said; "Are those potatoes"?
I said; "No, those are rocks".

hmmmm...

Front yard with a raised wooden planter frame holding tomato plants and herbs in a gutter, with a row of white rocks along the edge of the driveway.


I suppose, people have been going by for the last year, wondering what the hell I've been doing.
So when something new shows up, its only natural for them to scratch their heads.

I've decided that 3 dimensional front yard gutter gardens, are the bomb. :smile:
 
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OmCheeto said:
I adapt to my environment. This forum will do.
OmCheeto said:
My sciencey opinion of the merits of gutter gardens:
OmCheeto said:
... I just spied upon some lady, eyeing my garden, scratching her head.
You dog you. Love it though. +1
 
Evo said:
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On hot days, since my plants are in containers, when they start looking fried, I have been dousing the soil with pitchers of ice water, perks them right back up.

My biggest single investment was a $35 digital watering thingamajig.
Best investment ever.
About 10 years ago, on my annual 4 day trip to the Oregon Country Fair, I murdered about a dozen bonsai plants which I had been grooming for about 15 years. :frown: Gutter gardens don't hold much soil, so it's the same situation.
You either have to be retired, or have an automatic watering system.
I water mine 6 times a day, 5 minutes at a time.

The fish tank looking thing in the background, I mentioned earlier, is of course, a fish tank.
It holds 35 gallons. To that I add Miracle Grow type fertilizer. I know how much water I use each day, so I can calibrate how much fertilizer I add to a tank full, so I neither under, nor over fertilize everything. It's powered by gravity.
I seldom use it now that I have the automatic system, though it's good to top off some of the bigger tomato plants, as they are real water hogs.

Oh. And about those rock/potato things. Those are 8" clear plant saucer/tray thingamabobs. The sprinkler has a bit of overshoot at that area, so rather than water the driveway, I put them there to collect the water, so I don't have to water my cats. The neighbor dogs also drink out of them, as do all manner of bees and wasps.
A west wind picked up today, and several of them ended up going completely dry, and escaped to the neighbors yard. Hence, todays addition of the rock/potatoes, and the lady's confusion. :biggrin:
 
ZapperZ said:
So I planted 3 rhododendron about 3 years ago. One died, one did very well (purple flowers), and the last one, I wasn't sure of. The past 2 years, it didn't flower, and the plant didn't look very healthy at all. I continued to make sure it has mulch and fertilizers.

Then suddenly, this year, it grew healthy and it flowered for the first time!

Cluster of bright magenta rhododendron flowers with dark green oval leaves, growing by a chain-link fence in a mulched garden bed.

Clusters of deep magenta rhododendron flowers with dark green oval leaves, growing above wood chip mulch beside a wire fence.


It is a different plant then the other surviving rhododendron because the leaves are thicker, and the flowers are these deep, red color (the photos don't do it justice). I wish I had the specie name, but the tag has been lost for a long time. And unlike the other rhododendron that flowered early in the spring, this one comes a bit later and it is now at the peak.

I hope it will continue to thrive, because it adds needed color to the far corner of my yard. My neighbor loves it because it faces right at his family room.

Zz.
It's so beautiful. nice try
 
It is quite possible, that I've been paying too much attention to the fence, and not enough, to the veggies.

Today's harvest:

Harvest of tomatoes on a wooden table: a wicker basket of small red and yellow cherry tomatoes, larger red, orange and green-shouldered heirloom tomatoes, red and orange chili peppers, and pruning shears.


Oops.

aaaand... back to the food thread, to figure out what to do with too many tomatoes!
:redface:
 
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OmCheeto said:
It is quite possible, that I've been paying too much attention to the fence, and not enough, to the veggies.

Today's harvest:

Photo of a wicker basket of small red and yellow cherry tomatoes beside a wooden table holding larger heirloom tomatoes, red chili peppers and a pair of pruning shears.


Oops.

aaaand... back to the food thread, to figure out what to do with too many tomatoes!
:redface:
Tomato sauce, canned tomatoes.
 
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We are having a serious drought here on the west coast, USA. I typically grow tomato plants through the summer, but have held back to support the cause of water conservation. My half-acre property, however, just happens to be adjacent to a duplex unit where the inhabitants obviously have free utilities incorporated into their contract because they have the water sprinkler running all day and night.
 
Today harvest:

Small orange cherry tomatoes with green stems piled in a pink plastic colander on a white surface, with one larger yellow tomato partly visible at the top.


What to do with too many tomatoes? There are never too many good tomatoes.
Bottle of Guinness Blonde American Lager beside a white bowl of roasted vegetables with a spoon, and a pink basket of cherry tomatoes on a table.
 
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DiracPool said:
We are having a serious drought here on the west coast, USA. I typically grow tomato plants through the summer, but have held back to support the cause of water conservation. My half-acre property, however, just happens to be adjacent to a duplex unit where the inhabitants obviously have free utilities incorporated into their contract because they have the water sprinkler running all day and night.

Argh!
Now you've made me think about it.
My tomato plants can drink up to 5 gallons of water a day.
They've been going for at least two months, so that's about 300 gallons of water.

I just harvested 90% of this years crop, and simmered it down to spaghetti sauce.
I got about a quart. :oldgrumpy:

And it smells funny. :oldgrumpy:
 
OmCheeto said:
Argh!
Now you've made me think about it.
My tomato plants can drink up to 5 gallons of water a day.
They've been going for at least two months, so that's about 300 gallons of water.

Don't worry, there's still 13.5 billion gallons left in the Bull Run water shed.
 
First we had hogweeds in one area of the woods right behind the yard that we were clearing out. These things are basically Satan in plant form. On the one hand, they do reach a very impressive size and I wish had thought to take some pictures. On the other hand, they can cause blindness and permanent disfigurement and the city has to call the EPA to remove (and guess who foots the bill, by the way?), and once the guys in the literal HAZMAT suits are done removing these Devil plants they fence off an area 15 feet around where the plant was located.

In that area, a poison ivy patch 2 feet high completely took over. I think my yard actually be trying to kill me.
 
nsaspook said:
Don't worry, there's still 13.5 billion gallons left in the Bull Run water shed.

I've decided to go back to manual watering. The auto system was just for while I was away on vacation.
One problem though is mosquitoes in the fish tank. I covered it up with a towel about a month ago, and the mosquitoes are still alive!
Last year I solved the problem by putting fish in my rain barrels.

Small fish with a brown-grey body and red-tinged tail fins swimming in a shallow pool of water, with bits of debris scattered around it.

Tanichthys albonubes​

They did a great job. Unfortunately, a great plague wiped them all out this winter. (One reason I gave that "hex" tank the boot)
And I don't think they'll survive in the fish tank if it's full of fertilizer.
hmmmm...
Ah ha!

Electronic water timer by ACE connected to a garden hose splitter lying on dry grass, with its LCD showing 8:05 AM, 2:00 PM, 5 MIN and DAY ON.


Rather than remove the watering system from the gutter, I just added a splitter, and I ran the alternate hose into the fish tank.
Problem solved!
It was quite distressing having to get out of my lawn chair every 3 days, and refill that stupid tank.

I just tested it, filled the tank to the brim, and will find out how long mosquitoes can hold their breath. Ha!

ps. Tanichthys albonubes, commonly called "White Cloud Mountain Fish", are sold as feeders, so you can buy 10 for a dollar. They are as durable as goldfish. When I go to the fish store, I pretend I have fish that want to eat them, but keep them as pets. Shhhhhh! If the pet store finds out, they'll charge me $2 a piece for these little guys.
 
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Besides tomatoes and peppers, the only other things in the garden are my Zucchini and Cantaloupe. To my surprise there were two unknown "melons" amongst the Cantaloupe vines. Thinking it may be a cross between Zucchini and Cantaloupe, I took some pictures:

Zucchini, Cantaloupe, Zucchinaloupe?

Photo of a small green zucchini, a tan cantaloupe and a large dark green gourd-like squash on a kitchen counter in front of shelves of electronic components.


The thing weighted out at 25 lb.

Large dark green gourd-like fruit resting on a white bathroom scale on a parquet wooden floor, with the scale display reading 25.0.


So I opened it up for a taste.

Cut-open melon with pale green rind, pale orange-pink flesh and a central cavity holding seeds, on a kitchen counter next to a whole melon.


From the taste, it's a cross between my Cantaloupes and evidently my neighbors Cucumbers.
 
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