How Extensive Is Life Deep Beneath Earth's Surface?

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The discussion revolves around the extent and characteristics of life deep beneath Earth's surface, exploring estimates of subsurface biomass, evolutionary implications, and comparisons to surface life. It includes references to scientific articles and personal reflections on the topic.

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  • Some participants reference a report indicating that continental subsurface hosts approximately 2 to 6 × 10^29 cells, suggesting a significant amount of subsurface carbon linked to living organisms.
  • One participant mentions that many subsurface organisms exist in a state of low energy expenditure, with evolution described as being in "standby."
  • Another participant claims that subsurface life may occupy about 2.5 times the volume of all Earth's oceans and constitutes around 70% of all biomass on Earth, indicating a vast and largely unexplored area of biological diversity.
  • There is a discussion about the evolutionary history of subterranean life, with some suggesting that all extant clades originated from a common medium, while others diverged into different environments, including deep rock strata.
  • One participant provides a link to a CDC article discussing human parasites, drawing a parallel between surface and subsurface life, and mentions personal experiences with such parasites during medical training.
  • A later reply challenges the claim about the volume of subsurface life, clarifying that the volume refers to where life exists rather than the total biomass, and provides estimates of carbon and biomass density.

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Participants express various estimates and interpretations regarding the extent of subsurface life, with some claims being contested. There is no clear consensus on the specifics of biomass or evolutionary implications.

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Some claims rely on estimates and assumptions that may not be universally accepted, and there are unresolved details regarding the definitions of biomass and the conditions under which subsurface life exists.

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https://phys.org/news/2018-12-life-deep-earth-totals-billion.html
This report from DCO is a kind of review article. This article itself does not have specific reference papers cited. Just another review article. I think the DCO people expect us to dig around a little. Plus there are ~300 DCO scientists active in the group.

Per the article: there is a LOT of subsurface carbon - read living organisms - the estimates are large:
continental subsurface hosts are 2 to 6 × 10^29 cells.

Many of the species found come from solid rock with some stress fractures (because a lot the samples come from seismically active sites or from kilometers beneath the seabed.)

One interesting point is that many subsurface organisms spend little energy on growth, they simply exist. Evolution is in "standby":
https://phys.org/news/2017-03-microorganisms-subsurface-seabed-evolutionary-standby.html
 
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Just saw this elsewhere. I heard the amount of subsurface life takes up about 2.5 times the volume of all the oceans on Earth! That is absolutely insane!

Estimates say it totals about 70% of all biomass on Earth. This hitherto hidden 'dark bio-matter' means that biologists, just like physicists, have only barely scraped the surface of their subject.

It is very exciting to learn about the evolutionary path of this subterranean life: who got here first? Us, surface dwellers, or them?
 
This link discusses your concept. https://phys.org/news/2017-03-microorganisms-subsurface-seabed-evolutionary-standby.html
It is more like every extant clade started out in a common medium, then some went further "South", while others stayed above the rock stata. There are ascarid worms down in the rock fractures for example. There are lots of ascarid worms up on land.
Examples:
Human parasites - https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/ascariasis/index.html
800 million - 1.2 billion humans are infected. The CDC article in the link is meant for non-Biologists. It should be fun read, that induces nightmares.
 
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jim mcnamara said:
Human parasites - https://www.cdc.gov/parasites/ascariasis/index.html
800 million - 1.2 billion humans are infected. The CDC article in the link is meant for non-Biologists. It should be fun read, that induces nightmares.
I saw a few of those back in med school. Nothing a bit of mebendazole shouldn't be able to take care of :)
 
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Just saw this elsewhere. I heard the amount of subsurface life takes up about 2.5 times the volume of all the oceans on Earth! That is absolutely insane!
No, that is the volume where life exists. It corresponds to an average depth of 6 km. Life is a tiny fraction of that volume. 7.5 tonnes of carbon per cubic kilometer are maybe 75 tonnes of biomass per 2 billion tonnes, or ~40 parts in a billion.
 
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