How far away could we detect ourselves?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential distance from which an alien species, equipped with similar technological capabilities to humanity, could detect signals from Earth that indicate the presence of intelligent life. The scope includes theoretical considerations of signal detection, the nature of emitted signals, and the implications of signal strength and frequency.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant posits that if an alien species had the same technological capabilities as humans, they could detect Earth's signals from the other end of the galaxy, particularly at radio frequencies where human signals outshine the Sun.
  • Another participant expresses a belief that Earth's signals may be lost in noise within a few hundred light years, suggesting a more limited detection range.
  • A different contribution mentions the Arecibo message as a powerful signal that could be detected by a SETI program from the other end of the galaxy.
  • One participant emphasizes the importance of repeated signals over one-time events for detection, indicating that consistent communication is necessary for successful identification of intelligent life.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the distance from which Earth's signals could be detected, with some suggesting a vast range while others argue for a significantly shorter distance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the actual capabilities and limitations of signal detection.

Contextual Notes

There are assumptions regarding the nature of signal strength, frequency, and the presence of background noise that are not fully explored. The discussion also depends on the definitions of "intelligent signals" and the criteria for detection.

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If we were an alien species withe a SETI program, with exactly the same technological capabilities, how far away could we be and still detect an Earth signal that would register as intelligent life? (ignore the travel time, assume all signals have had enough time to get as far as they can, obviously if the first signal we emitted was a year ago the answer would be one light year) If the answer is longer than when we emitted the signal, when would that signal be detected by this race?
 
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This is off the cuff form memory of something I heard in a talk time ago, the point was that at radio frequencies our chatter outshines the Sun, and it could be detected at the other end of the galaxy with roughly our present level technology.
 
I am asking because I thought I heard somewhere that all our signals were lost in the noise not too many light years away, less than a few hundred.
 
The most powerfull signal we've ever sent was a special http://archive.seti.org/seti/seti-background/arecibo.php" , and would be detectable by a SETI program like our own from the other end fo the gallaxy.
 
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Depends on the bread. :) And it's petroleum. And I don't think a one time event counts. The chances of our SETI program picking up a one time event are slim to none. I am talking about repeated events, normal traffic.
 
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