How far does a sliding block on an incline go before stopping?

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The problem involves a block sliding on a frictionless surface transitioning to a frictionless incline, with the goal of determining how far up the incline the block travels before stopping. The subject area includes dynamics and kinematics, particularly focusing on forces acting on an object on an incline.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the distance the block travels up the incline using kinematic equations but questions the need to account for the initial velocity after sliding on the horizontal surface. Some participants suggest reconsidering the net forces acting on the block on the incline.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the forces acting on the block, particularly questioning the relevance of the normal force and the component of gravity acting parallel to the incline. There is an ongoing clarification about the correct trigonometric function to use in the calculations.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the block sliding a distance of 3.0 m on a frictionless surface before reaching the incline, which may influence the initial conditions for the problem. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the forces involved and the assumptions made regarding the motion on the incline.

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Homework Statement



A 5.0 kg block slides along a frictionless horizontal surface with a speed of 7.0 m/s. After sliding a distance of 3.0 m, the block makes a smooth transition to a frictionless ramp inclined at an angle of 40° to the horizontal. How far up the ramp does the block slide before coming momentarily to rest?
m


Homework Equations



F=ma
v^2=v(initial)^2+2ad

The Attempt at a Solution



v(initial)=7.0 m/s
F(net)=Fn-Fg; Fn-Fg=ma
Fn=5*9.81*cos 40
Fg=5*9.81
F(net)=-11.4755
a=F(net)/m
a=-2.2951

0=v(initial)^2+2ad
0=7^2+2(-2.2951)d
0=49-4.5902d
d=49/4.5902
d=10.67

I tried this but it was incorrect. I think I might need to account for the 3 meters before the incline in order to find the initial velocity but since the surface was frictionless and there was no given acceleration is there a change in velocity during that time?
 

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You might want to reconsider the net force acting on the block when it is on the incline.
 
Since it is a frictionless surface I didn't think there were any forces other than normal and gravity?
 
a18c18 said:
Since it is a frictionless surface I didn't think there were any forces other than normal and gravity?
You're correct, the only two forces are the normal force and the weight of the mass. However, what is the net force acting on the mass? In which direction does it act?
 
Oh okay so it was sin instead of cos thank you very much!
 
a18c18 said:
Oh okay so it was sin instead of cos thank you very much!
No, what I'm saying is that the normal force has nothing to do with it! The only net force acting on the mass is the component of gravity which acts parallel to the slope, the normal force is irrelevant.
 

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