How far will the trampoline compress when a person jumps on it?

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The discussion revolves around a problem involving a trampoline's compression when a person jumps on it. The scenario includes a person who compresses the trampoline by 0.08 m while standing and jumps to a height of 0.26 m above the trampoline. Participants are exploring how far the trampoline will compress upon landing.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to relate the forces acting on the trampoline to the potential energy equations. Some are questioning the use of heights in their calculations and whether they are applying the correct relationships between spring force and energy.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various participants providing different equations and approaches. Some have noted discrepancies in their calculations and are seeking clarification on the correct application of energy conservation principles. There is no explicit consensus yet, but several productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of the problem as stated, and there is an emphasis on ensuring that the relationships between gravitational force, spring force, and energy are correctly interpreted. The initial compression of the trampoline and the heights involved are key points of discussion.

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Homework Statement



A spring-like trampoline dips down 0.08 m when a particular person stands on it. If this person jumps up to a height of 0.26 m above the top of the trampoline, how far with the trampoline compress when the person lands?

I am very lost! Please help!

Homework Equations



F=kx

U= .5 * k * x^2

PE= mgh

The Attempt at a Solution

PE = U

m * 9.8 * .18 = .5 * k * .18^2
 
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Well initially when the person is standing, weight = spring force or mg = (0.08)k.

So mg/k = 0.8

Now in mgh = 1/2 kx ^2, you can divide by k.
 
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.08k = .5 * k * x^2

.08= .5 x^2

.16= x^2

x= .40

but it marked it wrong
 
lollikey said:
.08k = .5 * k * x^2

.08= .5 x^2

.16= x^2

x= .40

but it marked it wrong

Because you are equating spring force to energy

Your equation is PE = U or mgh= ½kx2
 
.08k *.26 = .5 * k * x^2
.0208 = .5 * x^2
.0146 = x^2
x = .2039

am I using the wrong height?

.08k * h = .5 * k * .26^2
.08 * h = .0338
h = .4225

none of these are right
 
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lollikey said:
.08k *.26 = .5 * k * x^2
.0208 = .5 * x^2
.0146 = x^2
x = .2039

am I using the wrong height?

.08k * h = .5 * k * .26^2
.08 * h = .0338
h = .4225

none of these are right

Right initially the spring is compressed 0.08 m so that mg = 0.08k

Now as the person falls, they will travel a distance 'h' to the point where they just hit the trampoline and they will continue to now compress the spring a distance 'x'. The total of these are then converted into the elastic potential energy of the spring.

So now you have mgh + mgx = ½kx2.

You will have a quadratic to solve in x.
 

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