How Fast Can a Rock Spin Before the String Breaks?

Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a rock being whirled in a horizontal circle at the end of a string, with specific parameters regarding the mass of the rock, the length of the string, and the breaking strength of the string. Participants are discussing how to determine the maximum allowable speed of the rock given these conditions.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the relationship between the angle of the string and the radius of the circular motion. Questions are raised about the necessity of the angle in calculations, with some suggesting that the horizontal nature of the motion implies an angle of 0 degrees, simplifying the problem. Others discuss the forces acting on the rock and how to apply them to find the maximum speed.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants clarifying concepts and exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the application of forces and the use of specific equations, though there is no explicit consensus on the approach to take.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem does not provide an angle explicitly, leading to different interpretations of how to approach the calculations. The constant length of the string and the maximum tension allowed are also emphasized as key factors in the discussion.

hofluff87
Messages
5
Reaction score
0
A 930 g rock is whirled in a horizontal circle at the end of a 1.3 m-long string. If the breaking strength of the string is 110 N, what is the maximum allowable speed of the rock?

OK the main problem that i am having with this equation is the fact that no angle is given. Is there a way to figure out the angle?

since the length is given: the radius is r = L cos (theta)
you need theta to calculate the velocity with the equation V= sq root ((g L cos 2 theta)/ sin theta)
 
Physics news on Phys.org
This is the first time I have witnessed these kinds of equations, but may I just ask, why are you using the equation [tex]r = L cos \vartheta[/tex] ? The question states that the circle is horizontal, therefore the angle is 0o and hence, [tex]cos \vartheta = 1[/tex] which means the radius = length of string.
 
Oh sorry, after re-reading your problem I see where you had the trouble. The angle was not specifically given, it was instead discretely provided. In the information where it said that the rock was spun in a horizontal circle, this gives you all the information you need for the angle :smile:
 
Well length of string is constant 1.3 m regardless of the angle.
The two forces acting here are gravity (9.81 ms^-2) and the centripetal force.
The tension in the string can be a maximum of 110N as you stated, this implies that you have a right angle triangle with (9.81 * 0.930)N pointing down and 110N along the hypotenuse. With this information it is possible to calculate the angle for breaking point. However that is unnecessary, you can just use pythagoras' theorem to find the horizontal component of that force.

Re-arrange [tex]F = \frac{mv^2}{r}[/tex]
to:

[tex]v = \sqrt{ \frac{Fr}{m}}[/tex]

That should be all that you need.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
5K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 19 ·
Replies
19
Views
2K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
3K