How Fast Must a Book Be Tossed to Clear a Windowsill?

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The problem involves a book being tossed into a dorm room, requiring calculations to determine the initial velocity needed to clear a windowsill 4.2m high and the time it takes to hit the floor 0.87m below that height. The context is rooted in kinematics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to find the initial velocity and time of flight. There are questions about the correctness of direction assignments for the initial and final positions, as well as the interpretation of the two possible times obtained from the quadratic equation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights regarding the interpretation of the time values derived from the calculations, suggesting that the later time corresponds to when the book hits the floor. There is ongoing clarification about the definitions of displacement and the choice of origin point for the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of defining a consistent origin point and direction for displacement in the problem. There is also mention of the absence of explicit equations provided in the original problem statement.

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Homework Statement




A book is toss into your dorm room, just clearing a windowsill 4.2m above ground.
a)If the book leaves your hand 1.5m above ground, how fast must it be going to clear the sill?
b)How long after it leaves your hand will it hit the floor, 0.87m below the windowsill?



Homework Equations



none.

The Attempt at a Solution



a)vf^2 - vi^2 = 2g(yf - yi)

-vi^2 = 2(-9.8ms^-2) (4.2m-1.5m)
vi = 7.274613392ms^-1


b)vi = 7.274613392ms^-1
yf - yi = 4.2m - 1.5m (are the directions correct?)
g = -9.81ms^-2

yf - yi = vit + 0.5gt^2

3.33m - 1.5m = 7.274613392ms^-1 t - 4.905 ms^-2 t^2

solving via quadratic equation:

t = 1.162s && t = 0.32

Which t do I take? Conceptual explanation please?
 
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negation said:

Homework Statement




A book is toss into your dorm room, just clearing a windowsill 4.2m above ground.
a)If the book leaves your hand 1.5m above ground, how fast must it be going to clear the sill?
b)How long after it leaves your hand will it hit the floor, 0.87m below the windowsill?



Homework Equations



none.

The Attempt at a Solution



a)vf^2 - vi^2 = 2g(yf - yi)

-vi^2 = 2(-9.8ms^-2) (4.2m-1.5m)
vi = 7.274613392ms^-1


b)vi = 7.274613392ms^-1
yf - yi = 4.2m - 1.5m (are the directions correct?)
g = -9.81ms^-2

yf - yi = vit + 0.5gt^2

3.33m - 1.5m = 7.274613392ms^-1 t - 4.905 ms^-2 t^2

solving via quadratic equation:

t = 1.162s && t = 0.32

Which t do I take? Conceptual explanation please?

The later one (1.162s). The earlier t signifies the time the book passes the spot 3.33m above the floor on its upward trajectory (on the way to the windowsill). The later t is the time the book hits the floor outside.
 
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Curious3141 said:
The later one (1.162s). The earlier t signifies the time the book passes the spot 3.33m above the floor on its upward trajectory (on the way to the windowsill). The later t is the time the book hits the floor outside.

And I presume the directions of yf and yi in part b is both correct?

I would have made the assumption that at yi = 1.5m and going up, the displacement is positive and at yf = 3.33m, the displacement would be negative.
 
negation said:
And I presume the directions of yf and yi in part b is both correct?

I would have made the assumption that at yi = 1.5m and going up, the displacement is positive and at yf = 3.33m, the displacement would be negative.

The important thing for the displacement is that you define an origin point (in this case, it's the floor directly below your hand) and a positive direction (in this case "up").

So the initial displacement of the book is +1.5m. The final displacement is +3.33m (because it ends up 3.33m above the level of the dorm room ground).

The problem is also completely workable if you take the origin as your hand. In which case the original displacement is 0, and the final displacement is +1.83m. The only thing that matters is consistency.
 
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