How Fast Must the Cylinder Rotate to Keep Passengers from Sliding?

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The problem involves a rotating amusement park ride where passengers must remain against the wall of a cylinder after the floor drops away. The subject area includes concepts of circular motion, friction, and forces acting on the passengers.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the coefficient of friction and the forces acting on the passengers, questioning the values used for the coefficient and radius. There is an exploration of the minimum frequency required to prevent sliding.

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Some participants have provided guidance on interpreting the problem and checking calculations, while others are clarifying the phrasing of the question and the units used in the calculations. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

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There is mention of varying coefficients of friction and the need to convert between different units of frequency, which may affect the calculations. The original poster's calculations have been challenged, indicating potential misunderstandings or misapplications of the concepts involved.

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In an old-fashioned amusement park ride, passengers stand inside a 3.0-m-tall, 5.0-m-diameter hollow steel cylinder with their backs against the wall. The cylinder begins to rotate about a vertical axis. Then the floor on which the passengers are standing suddenly drops away! If all goes well, the passengers will “stick” to the wall and not slide. Clothing has a static coefficient of friction against steel in the range 0.60 to 1.0 and a kinetic coefficient in the range 0.40 to 0.70.

Homework Equations



T = 1/f

and so the people don't slide

(coefficient of friction) (Fn)= mg

( (coefficient of friction)*m*v^2)/ r = mg



The Attempt at a Solution



(coefficient of friction) = (g*r)/ (v^2)

T = (2*pi*r)/ square root of ((g*r)/(coefficient of friction))

and f= 1/T

I got 0.4068 = f
but the program says I am wrong
 
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What did you use for the coefficient of friction? What did you use for the radius?
 
Assuming that the question was to find the minimum frequency to insure that they wouldn't slide, it looks OK to me. How was the question phrased exactly?
 
The 0.4068 is rotations in a second. You had to multiply that value by 60 to put it into rotations per MINUTE.
 

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