How Fast Should a Centrifuge Spin to Achieve Specific Acceleration?

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The problem involves determining the required rotational speed (in rpm) of a centrifuge to achieve a specific centripetal acceleration for a particle located at a given distance from the axis of rotation. The subject area includes concepts of circular motion, centripetal acceleration, and angular velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss converting units of acceleration and radius, and relate linear and angular velocities. There are attempts to derive formulas for centripetal acceleration and its relationship with angular velocity. Some participants express confusion about the correct application of these relationships.

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The discussion has progressed with participants providing insights into the formulas for centripetal acceleration and unit conversions. Some have successfully derived values for angular velocity and period, while others are still clarifying their understanding of the relationships involved. There is acknowledgment of a correct conversion process leading to a final answer.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, focusing on understanding the relationships between different physical quantities without providing direct solutions. There is a noted confusion regarding the transition from radians to revolutions per minute.

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Homework Statement


How fast (in rpm) must a centrifuge rotate if a particle 7.0 cm from the axis of rotation is to experience an acceleration of 1.2×10^5 g's?

The Attempt at a Solution


well first i made 7 cm .07 m. then i changed acceleration to 1.18x10^6 m/s^2 by multiplying 1.2x10^5 g's by 9.8. at this point i no longer know what to do.

i am having trouble relating linear velocity, centripetal velocity, and angular velocity now. rpm means centripetal velocity, which is equal to 2πr/T, and i believe its centripetal velocity that equals rω. and acceleration = v^2/r nd i don't know where to go from there.
 
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The centripetal acceleration for circular motion is, as you said, v2/r. Since v = ωr (ω is angular velocity), the centripetal acceleration can also be written as: acceleration = ω2r.

If you use your acceleration of 1.18*106 m/s2 and your given radius, you'll get an answer for ω in rads/sec. The answer they're looking for is in revs/minute. You'll have to do a couple unit conversions on your answer to translate it to the right units. Hope that helps.
 
bfusco said:

Homework Statement


How fast (in rpm) must a centrifuge rotate if a particle 7.0 cm from the axis of rotation is to experience an acceleration of 1.2×10^5 g's?

The Attempt at a Solution


well first i made 7 cm .07 m. then i changed acceleration to 1.18x10^6 m/s^2 by multiplying 1.2x10^5 g's by 9.8. at this point i no longer know what to do.

i am having trouble relating linear velocity, centripetal velocity, and angular velocity now. rpm means centripetal velocity, which is equal to 2πr/T, and i believe its centripetal velocity that equals rω. and acceleration = v^2/r nd i don't know where to go from there.

The centripetal acceleration is not only given by v2/R, but also 4∏2R/T2
where T is the period.

Frequency - revolutions per second - is the inverse of Period, and revolutions per second should be pretty easy to convert to revolutions per minute
 
ok...so using a=4∏^2r/T^2, i solved for T=√(4∏^2r/a)→√(4∏^2(.07)/117600) (the 117600 is 1.2x10^5 times 9.8). so i got T=.0015. next using the equation ω=v/r, i got ω=4099 rps→x60=245880 rpm. which is also wrong. the answer is 39000rpm. but how
 
bfusco said:
ok...so using a=4∏^2r/T^2, i solved for T=√(4∏^2r/a)→√(4∏^2(.07)/117600) (the 117600 is 1.2x10^5 times 9.8). so i got T=.0015. next using the equation ω=v/r, i got ω=4099 rps→x60=245880 rpm. which is also wrong. the answer is 39000rpm. but how

damn i got it, like stated before the answer of 4099 is in rad/sec, which when converted to rpm gives me 39000. damn, thanks guys
 
bfusco said:
damn i got it, like stated before the answer of 4099 is in rad/sec, which when converted to rpm gives me 39000. damn, thanks guys

The Period is how long it takes to do one revolution - you got 0.0015 sec [rounded off] .

AT that stage I would want to know "How many of them fit into 1 minute (60 Seconds)

so 60 divided by 0.0015 [not rounded off though] and there should be your answer without going via radians and ω !
 

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