How fast will your twin crash into the overturned truck?

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The problem involves two identical cars driven by twins, one at 50 km/hr and the other at 70 km/hr, who both apply brakes upon seeing an overturned truck. The goal is to determine the speed of the second twin's car at the moment of collision with the truck.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the initial velocities of both cars and the need for additional information such as time or acceleration to solve the problem. There is a focus on using constant acceleration equations to find relationships between the variables.

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Some participants have identified the need to express acceleration in terms of the first twin's braking scenario and have noted that the change in position may cancel out in their calculations. There is ongoing exploration of how to approach the problem without complete information.

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Key information such as the distance to the truck and the rate of deceleration is not provided, leading to questions about the solvability of the problem. Participants are considering the implications of these missing variables on their calculations.

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Homework Statement


You and your identical twin are driving identical cars with identical tires down a straight road on a foggy day. You are the more prudent of the two and are driving at a speed of 50 km/hr. Your twin decides to pass you and accelerates to a speed of 70 km/hr, which he maintains as he tries to pass. As his car draws level to yours, each of you sees an overturned truck blocking the road. You each apply the brakes at the same instant and begin to skid towards the truck. You manage to halt a few inches from the truck. Approximately how fast is your twin going when he crashes into it?


Homework Equations


Vf = Vo + at
Δx = volt + 1/2at^2
Vf^2 = Vo^2 + 2aΔx


The Attempt at a Solution



for car 1 Vo = 50km/hr
for car 2 Vo = 70km/hr

So far all I can do is convert the velocities to meters per second, understand that for car 1 the final velocity would be 0. Both cars begin to brake at the exact same X initial which is not provided nor is a time or an acceleration rate. I don't if this problem is unsolvable due to not enough information but I can't seem to get any way to begin solving this problem, thanks in advance for any input
 
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freshcoast said:

Homework Statement


You and your identical twin are driving identical cars with identical tires down a straight road on a foggy day. You are the more prudent of the two and are driving at a speed of 50 km/hr. Your twin decides to pass you and accelerates to a speed of 70 km/hr, which he maintains as he tries to pass. As his car draws level to yours, each of you sees an overturned truck blocking the road. You each apply the brakes at the same instant and begin to skid towards the truck. You manage to halt a few inches from the truck. Approximately how fast is your twin going when he crashes into it?


Homework Equations


Vf = Vo + at
Δx = volt + 1/2at^2
Vf^2 = Vo^2 + 2aΔx


The Attempt at a Solution



for car 1 Vo = 50km/hr
for car 2 Vo = 70km/hr

So far all I can do is convert the velocities to meters per second, understand that for car 1 the final velocity would be 0. Both cars begin to brake at the exact same X initial which is not provided nor is a time or an acceleration rate. I don't if this problem is unsolvable due to not enough information but I can't seem to get any way to begin solving this problem, thanks in advance for any input

How might you find an expression for the acceleration (or deceleration) of the first twin?
 
I can use one of the constant acceleration equations but I am either missing the change of x or time.
 
freshcoast said:
I can use one of the constant acceleration equations but I am either missing the change of x or time.

Take a close look at your third Relevant Equation.
 
Got it! I solve for acceleration for car 1 using relevant eq. 3 and substitute it into the same equation but for car 2 and the change of x cancels out. Thanks!
 

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