How Is Angular Velocity Affected by Torque in a Multi-Pulley System?

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The discussion revolves around a multi-pulley system where the original poster seeks to determine the angular velocity of three pulleys after a torque is applied for a specified duration. The problem involves concepts from rotational dynamics, including torque, moment of inertia, and angular acceleration.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the angular velocity by using the moments of inertia and applying the torque equation. They question whether to sum the moments of inertia for all pulleys to find the angular acceleration.
  • One participant suggests calculating the torque for each pulley separately and using the torque-angular acceleration relationship.
  • Another participant proposes an alternative approach involving work and energy principles, hinting at a more complex method that could simplify the problem without directly calculating tensions.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the methods they can use. The original poster's initial calculations and assumptions about the system's behavior are also under scrutiny.

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Homework Statement


Q2: IF mA=2kg, mB=7kg, and mC=5kg. Starting from rest, if a torque of 5Nm is
given at t=0 to pulley A about point A for 3 seconds. Determine the angular
velocity of the 3 pulleys at t=3s.

[PLAIN]http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/8214/unled2tw.png


Homework Equations



relationship between rotational velocity and radius of 2 linked pulleys:
wa/wb = ra/rb

moment of inertia for a pulley:
I = 1/2mr^2

torque and angular acceleration:
t = Iα


The Attempt at a Solution



I calculated the moments of inertias for all 3 pulleys but I don't know how to apply them with the torque. Do I just add all 3 of them together and put it into t=Iα to find the acceleration and then figure out the velocity after 3 seconds? Thanks
 
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Hi Yapper! :smile:

(have an omega: ω and a tau: τ and try using the X2 and X2 icons just above the Reply box :wink:)
Yapper said:
I calculated the moments of inertias for all 3 pulleys but I don't know how to apply them with the torque. Do I just add all 3 of them together and put it into t=Iα to find the acceleration and then figure out the velocity after 3 seconds?

nooo, don't be laaazy :wink:

call the tensions T1 and T2, and do τ = Iα for each of the three pulleys (separately).
 
Thanks ill give it a try
 
actually, thinking again, there is a lazy way to do this problem :rolleyes:

(but it involves a bit of calculus at the end)

call the angle the first pulley goes through θA,

then find the work done as a function of θA, and equate that to the kinetic energy of all three pulleys, giving a differential equation relating θA and dθA/dt, from which you can find θA or dθA/dt as a function of t without finding the tensions …

try it both ways, to see :smile:
 

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