How Is Electric Flux Calculated for a Rectangle in an Electric Field?

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The discussion revolves around calculating electric flux through a rectangle situated in an electric field, specifically focusing on a rectangle measuring 2cm x 3cm in the xy plane with an electric field vector of (100i + 50k) N/C.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the calculation of electric flux using the formula Φe=E⋅Acosθ, discussing the components of the electric field and the area of the rectangle. Questions arise regarding the angle used in the flux calculation and the interpretation of the textbook's answer.

Discussion Status

Some participants express agreement with the numerical results obtained, while others suggest that the method may be overly complicated. There is an ongoing exploration of different ways to express the relationship between electric field and area, with no explicit consensus on the correct approach or resolution of discrepancies with the textbook answer.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a discrepancy between their calculated results and the answer provided in the textbook, with one participant suspecting a mistake in the textbook. The discussion includes considerations of the components of the electric field that contribute to the flux.

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Homework Statement


A 2cm x 3cm rectangle lies in the xy plane. What is the electric flux through the rectangle if
Electric field= (100i +50k) N/C

Homework Equations


Φe=E⋅Acosθ (Electric Flux Equation)

The Attempt at a Solution



My question is to find the magnitude of the electric field we say Emag=√(100i)2+(50k)2= 111.8N/C
Area=6x10-4m2
To find direction θ=tan-(50/100)=26.5°
We know that The angle in formula for electric flux is the angle subtended from a line normal to the surface and the electric field line. Therefore 90°-26.5°=63.4°
so:
Φe=E⋅Acosθ=(111.8N/C)(6x10-4m2)cos(63.4)=3.0x10-2

The textbook is disagreeing with this answer... Not sure what I am doing wrong.
 
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The calculation is more straightforward if you consider that only the component that is perpendicular to the surface contributes to the flux. Nevertheless, your answer seems OK to me.
 
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cookiemnstr510510 said:

Homework Statement


A 2cm x 3cm rectangle lies in the xy plane. What is the electric flux through the rectangle if
Electric field= (100i +50k) N/C

Homework Equations


Φe=E⋅Acosθ (Electric Flux Equation)

The Attempt at a Solution



My question is to find the magnitude of the electric field we say Emag=√(100i)2+(50k)2= 111.8N/C
Area=6x10-4m2
To find direction θ=tan-(50/100)=26.5°
We know that The angle in formula for electric flux is the angle subtended from a line normal to the surface and the electric field line. Therefore 90°-26.5°=63.4°
so:
Φe=E⋅Acosθ=(111.8N/C)(6x10-4m2)cos(63.4)=3.0x10-2

The textbook is disagreeing with this answer... Not sure what I am doing wrong.

What answer does the textbook give? By the way, for what it's worth, I agree with your numerical answer. A bit more below though about your method.

While I agree with the answer that you obtained, you made this way too complicated.

It's true that

\vec E \cdot \vec A = EA \cos \theta.

But there is another way to express this relationship:

\vec E \cdot \vec A = E_x A_x + E_y A_y + E_z A_z,

which is far more useful here.

You need to know both of these relationships. Sometimes one will be easier, and some other times the other will. You need to know both.
 
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collinsmark said:
What answer does the textbook give? By the way, for what it's worth, I agree with your numerical answer. A bit more below though about your method.

While I agree with the answer that you obtained, you made this way too complicated.

It's true that

\vec E \cdot \vec A = EA \cos \theta.

But there is another way to express this relationship:

\vec E \cdot \vec A = E_x A_x + E_y A_y + E_z A_z,

which is far more useful here.

You need to know both of these relationships. Sometimes one will be easier, and some other times the other will. You need to know both.
Ahhh okay, makes it much easier. The book says 3.2x10^-5 Nm^2/C
 
kuruman said:
The calculation is more straightforward if you consider that only the component that is perpendicular to the surface contributes to the flux. Nevertheless, your answer seems OK to me.
Thank you!
 
cookiemnstr510510 said:
The book says 3.2x10^-5 Nm^2/C
Yeah, I suspect there is a mistake in your textbook, somewhere or another.
 

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