How Is Energy Conservation Used to Calculate Sliding Distance on an Incline?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a block sliding down an incline, with given mass, angle, initial velocity, and friction coefficient. The original poster seeks to understand how to apply energy conservation principles to calculate the sliding distance.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to solve the problem using kinetic and potential energy concepts but expresses uncertainty about the energy conservation approach. Some participants question the setup and assumptions regarding the forces involved, while others suggest different formulations of energy equations.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring various methods to apply energy conservation, with some providing insights into the relationship between kinetic energy, potential energy, and work done against friction. There is a mix of attempts to clarify the energy approach and corrections to previous calculations, but no consensus has been reached on a single method.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of potential typos and misunderstandings regarding the application of mass in the equations. The discussion reflects a need for clarity on the energy conservation principles and their application in the context of the problem.

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Homework Statement


A block with a mass of 8.7kg slides down a hill with an angle of 27.4 degrees at an initial velocity of 1.66m/s. The friction uk between the block and hill is 0.62. What is the distance the block slides down the hill?

I solved the equation using components and kinetics, but I'm not quite sure how to solve it using energy conservation.

Homework Equations


For energy:
I know
initial energy=final energy
KE+PE= ? +ukNx ?



The Attempt at a Solution



Here is my work solving it with components
N(0,1)+mg(sin27.4, -cos27.4)+ukN (-1,0)=ma (1,0)
N=mgcos27.4

a=gsin27.4-ukmgcos27.4
=-.89m/s^2

Vf^2=Vi^2+2ad
d=-vo^2/2a
d=1.56m

hopefully doing it this way is also right. Thank you for any help!
 
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> a=gsin27.4-ukmgcos27.4

m shouldn't be there.
 
Oops, looks like i made a typo. but regardless of that the acceleration is still -0.89m/s^2

however, I'm still pondering on how to do this que with energy conservation.

KE-Wf=0?
 
Initial KE + difference of PE_grav between initial and final positions = work done against friction = frictional force*distance.
 
KE_f - KE_i = Work by gravity + Work by friction
0 - KE_i = Work by gravity + Work by friction
- 0.5 m * (1.66)^2 = (m * 9.81 * sin 27.4 - m * 9.81 * 0.62 * cos 27.4)*ans
ans = 1.56 m

Sorry, I wouldn't be able to explain any concepts behind what I did: use geometry and FBDs.
But, this is the way you should be doing this; if you keep doing these questions
your way, you will be in a big mess one day (maybe on your exam day)
 

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