How Is Impulse Calculated in Collision Scenarios?

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The discussion revolves around calculating impulse in collision scenarios involving a 25-kg object with initial and final velocities. Participants explore the impulse-momentum theorem and its application to different final velocities after a collision.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of impulse using the change in momentum, with attempts to apply the impulse-momentum theorem. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of velocity changes and the calculations involved in determining impulse for different scenarios.

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Some participants provide feedback on the calculations, with one confirming the impulse values derived from the original poster's work. There is an acknowledgment of correct answers, but also a suggestion that the original poster's approach may have been more complex than necessary.

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Participants are navigating through the problem with varying levels of understanding, and there is a mix of correct interpretations and some confusion regarding the calculations of velocity differences.

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Homework Statement


Before a collision, a 25-kg object is moving at +12m/s. Find the impulse that acted on the object if, after the collision, it moves at:
a. 8.0m/s
b.-8.0m/s

Homework Equations


(c)=changes in:
To find impulse, we would use the F=ma, so F=m*(c)v/(c)t
So, F(c)t = m(c)v
Therefore, F(c)t=p2-p1 (impulse-momentum theorem).

The Attempt at a Solution


Ok, so here's what I did. Let's solve A first.
GIVEN:
m=25kg
v1=12m/s
v2=8m/s
F=25*(8.0-12)/(c)t
F= -100/(c)t
So, we take the difference in time to the other side.
F(c)t=-100
Therefore, its impulse is -100. At first I got confused because I had left two variables, but I think that's the impulse because F(c)t=p2-p1, so:
p2-p1=-100
25(8)-(25)(12)=-100
-100=-100
Im assuming that's the impulse, so its -100 N*s.

So, let's do this for B, which is -8.
GIVEN:
m=25kg
v1=12m/s
v2=-8.0m/s
F=?
F(c)t=m(v2-v1)
Impulse=25(-8-12)
Impulse=25(-20)
Impulse=-500
Seems to make sense, because to make the object that's moving go on its opposite direction it must be really strong. And also, both answers are negative as it moves in the opposite direction.

I would appreciate if you could check over my work to see if it is correct.
 
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The answer is 400 Ns.

While you are correct, initially, in looking at the problem, the impulse you can see by looking at the initial and final velocities, that the (c)v [to use your symbols] is -16 m/s.

Impluse IS F(c)t, so the answer is 25 kg * (-16m/s)

m
 
Chi Meson said:
The answer is 400 Ns.

While you are correct, initially, in looking at the problem, the impulse you can see by looking at the initial and final velocities, that the (c)v [to use your symbols] is -16 m/s.

Impluse IS F(c)t, so the answer is 25 kg * (-16m/s)

m

For Problem A, the c(v) is V2-V1, so 8-12 would equal -4.
For Problem B, the c(v) is V2-V1, so -8-12 would equal -20. Where did you get -16? Did you use -20-(-4)? Wouldn't that be the change of the change in velocity?
 
matadorqk said:
For Problem A, the c(v) is V2-V1, so 8-12 would equal -4.
For Problem B, the c(v) is V2-V1, so -8-12 would equal -20. Where did you get -16? Did you use -20-(-4)? Wouldn't that be the change of the change in velocity?

Sorry, I misread the question. I had thought it was "8m/s to -8m/s." Your answers are correct, but still you did far more work than necessary.
 
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Im in my first year of physics so I am really careful step by step, hehe! I handed in the homework today so thank god the answer was right hehehe! thanks soo much for your help! :)

'better safe than sorry'
 

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