How Is Tension Calculated in a Rope Held by Two People Leaning Back?

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The problem involves two individuals of equal mass holding opposite ends of a rope while leaning back at an angle of 15 degrees from the vertical. The focus is on calculating the tension in the rope exerted by each person.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to set up the problem using a force diagram and considers the relationship between tension and gravitational force. Some participants question the validity of the approach, particularly regarding the components of gravitational force and whether torque should be considered.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with some participants providing supportive feedback on the original setup while others express uncertainty and suggest alternative considerations, such as torque. There is no explicit consensus on the correct approach yet.

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Participants are grappling with the implications of gravity acting only in the vertical direction and the potential need to incorporate torque into their analysis. The original poster's setup may be influenced by homework constraints or specific guidelines regarding the problem.

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1. Two people of equal mass are holding opposite ends of a rope and lean back 15 degrees with the vertical. What is the tension in the rope exerted by each person?

This is how attempted to solve this.
So tension is created by the force of gravity from them leaning back. So I drew a force diagram sum of the tensions in the X direction should be 0. So I found the force gravity in the X direction using Tan15=T/MG which gives me MGtan15=T.

Is this the correct way to set up the problem?

Thanks
 
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Looks good to me.
 
Ok, so I looked at this problem again and I'm still unsure about this solution. If gravity acts only on the y direction how is it possible for it to have an x-component and solve it like I just did? Should I be taking torques into account as well as the force exerted by the ground?
 
haloschief said:
Ok, so I looked at this problem again and I'm still unsure about this solution. If gravity acts only on the y direction how is it possible for it to have an x-component and solve it like I just did?
It doesn't. Assuming your y-axis is vertical, gravity doesn't have any x-component. I'm not really sold on your original solution either. (Kudos for recognizing that there was something fishy about it :wink:)

I think trying to do it with torque would be a good idea.
 

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