How is the energy transfered back to the Moon

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the mechanisms of energy transfer between the Earth and the Moon, specifically how the Earth's rotational slowdown affects the Moon's orbit. Participants explore concepts related to tidal forces, friction, and orbital dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the Moon slows down the Earth's rotation through tidal friction, leading to the Moon gaining energy and moving farther away.
  • Another participant argues that it is not the Earth's slowdown that transfers energy to the Moon, but rather the friction caused by tidal forces, suggesting that a uniform Earth would not result in energy transfer.
  • A later reply emphasizes that the Earth's topography, such as mountains, exerts a gravitational pull on the Moon, which contributes to its acceleration and higher orbit.
  • Links to Wikipedia articles on ocean tides are provided by participants for further reference on the topic.
  • One participant highlights a specific section in the Wikipedia article that explains why the tidal bulge is positioned ahead of the Earth-Moon line, affecting the Moon's orbit.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the mechanisms of energy transfer, indicating that multiple competing explanations exist regarding the relationship between the Earth's rotation and the Moon's orbital dynamics.

Contextual Notes

Participants do not fully resolve the complexities of the energy transfer process, and assumptions regarding the uniformity of the Earth and the nature of tidal forces remain unexamined.

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I know from reading that the Moon slows down the Earth's rotation by creating friction on the ocean floor by causing the tibes, and as a result of this the Moon gains energy and moves farther out into space. What I don't understand is though, is that when the Earth slows down how does it transfer that energy to the Moon?
 
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Forestman said:
I know from reading that the Moon slows down the Earth's rotation by creating friction on the ocean floor by causing the tibes, and as a result of this the Moon gains energy and moves farther out into space. What I don't understand is though, is that when the Earth slows down how does it transfer that energy to the Moon?
It's not the Earth slowing that transfers energy to the Moon, it's the friction - both ways. If the Earth were a perfect sphere of uniform density, the Moon would not gain energy from it.

The mountains and other protruberances on the Earth pull on the Moon, giving a kick in the direction of Earth's rotation. This accelerates the Moon in its orbit. Accelerating something in its orbit vqause it to move into a higher orbit
 
granpa said:

Yeah, the second paragraph of that section describes it pretty well, particularly the part about why the tidal bulge of Earth is ahead of the Earth-Moon line, causing the Moon to be pulled forward in its orbit.
 

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