How Is the Enthalpy of Formation for Lithium Fluoride Calculated?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the enthalpy of formation for lithium fluoride (LiF), focusing on the various energy components involved in the process, including sublimation, ionization, bond dissociation, electron affinity, and lattice energy. Participants are attempting to reconcile their calculations with expected values.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a series of chemical equations and energy values to calculate the enthalpy of formation for LiF, arriving at -537 kJ.
  • Another participant questions the treatment of the bond-dissociation energy of F2, suggesting it should be represented as F2(g) -> 2F(g) with a cost of -159 kJ, implying a need for consistency in the sign conventions used in the calculations.
  • Concerns are raised about whether the formation of LiF from Li+ and F- should be treated as a positive energy release, as they are oppositely charged particles coming together.
  • Participants discuss the implications of using half of the bond dissociation energy for the formation of one LiF molecule from two fluorine atoms.

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There is no consensus on the correct approach to calculating the enthalpy of formation for LiF, as participants express differing views on the treatment of energy values and signs in their calculations.

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Participants express confusion regarding the application of bond-dissociation energy and the treatment of energy signs, indicating potential misunderstandings or differing interpretations of the thermodynamic principles involved.

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Homework Statement


calculate enthalpy of formation for lithium fluoride... LiF

Homework Equations


Given from the worksheet is:

Lithium sublimation = 129 kj/mol
Lithium first ionization = 520 kj/mol
bond-dissociation energy of fluorine is 159 kj/mol F2
electron affinity for fluorine is -328 kj/mol
lattice energy of LiF = -1047 kj/mol


The Attempt at a Solution


The chemical equations i wrote/figured out are:

Li(s) -> Li(g) 159 kj
Li(g) -> Li+(g) + e- 520 kj
1/2F2(g) - > F(g) -159 kj
F(g) + e- -> F-(g) -328 kj
Li+(g) + F-(g) -> LiF(s) -1047

When i added it all up to find enthalpy formation , i get -537 kj but the answer is -617. what did i do wrong?
 
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Hey Lori!

Shouldn't we have F2(g) - > 2F(g) -159 kJ, so that it only costs half?
And shouldn't Li+(g) + F-(g) -> LiF(s) have a positive energy that is released when we bring oppositely charged particles together?
And shouldn't F(g) + e- -> F-(g) have a positive energy as well, since the electron bonds naturally?
We should be consistent with the minus signs, shouldn't we? :rolleyes:
 
I like Serena said:
Hey Lori!

Shouldn't we have F2(g) - > 2F(g) -159 kJ, so that it only costs half?
And shouldn't Li+(g) + F-(g) -> LiF(s) have a positive energy that is released when we bring oppositely charged particles together?
And shouldn't F(g) + e- -> F-(g) have a positive energy as well, since the electron bonds naturally?
We should be consistent with the minus signs, shouldn't we? :rolleyes:
I'm confused why there sublimation would cost half though ;(
 
Lori said:
I'm confused why there sublimation would cost half though ;(
Aren't we talking about the bond-dissociation energy of F2?
 
I like Serena said:
Aren't we talking about the bond-dissociation energy of F2?
Oops I meant the bond dissociation . Yeah
 
Lori said:
Oops I meant the bond dissociation . Yeah

Isn't bond dissociation for F2, leaving us with 2 F atoms?
We can make 2 LiF with that.
So the cost for 1 LiF is half of that.
 
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I like Serena said:
Isn't bond dissociation for F2, leaving us with 2 F atoms?
We can make 2 LiF with that.
So the cost for 1 LiF is half of that.
Oh it makes sense now. It's cause we only needed 1 so I took one half of the F so I should also take one half of the cost
 
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