How Is the Equilibrium Radius Determined in Rotational Spring Motion?

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an object attached to a spring, rotating with a fixed angular speed, and seeks to determine the equilibrium radius at which the object does not move toward or away from the origin. The context includes concepts from rotational dynamics and spring mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of Newton's second law to the rotating mass and question the relationship between the forces acting on the mass and the spring's force. There is uncertainty about how to set up the equation correctly and whether the mass is accelerating.

Discussion Status

The discussion has evolved with some participants providing guidance on applying Newton's second law, while others express confusion about the dynamics involved. There is a recognition that the object is indeed undergoing circular motion, which influences the forces at play.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the implications of neglecting gravity and the assumptions made regarding the spring's behavior and the system's dynamics. There is an acknowledgment of the challenge posed by the problem setup and the need for clarity in the equations involved.

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Homework Statement


An object of mass M = 3.00 kg is attached to a spring with spring constant k = 132 N/m whose unstretched length is L = 0.170 m, and whose far end is fixed to a shaft that is rotating with an angular speed of omega = 2.00 radians/s. Neglect gravity and assume that the mass also rotates with an angular speed of 2.00 radians/s as shown.

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Question:
Given the angular speed of omega = 2.00 radians/s, find the radius R([tex]\omega[/tex]) at which the mass rotates without moving toward or away from the origin.

Homework Equations



[tex]k(R-L)[/tex]
The amount of force a spring exerts is proportional to the distance it is stretched or compressed with respect to its equilibrium length ( L = 0.170 m in this case).

so...

[tex]F_{spring}(R)=k(R-L)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



"force a spring exerts is proportional to the distance it is stretched or compressed with respect to its equilibrium length" I am having problems with this part. I cannot figure out what the other side of the equation is.

I tried [tex]R-L=k(R-L)[/tex] but this does not work.

Any ideas?

-- Abarak
 
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Apply Newton's 2nd law to the mass. Is it accelerating?
 
From what I gather the object is not accelerating so Newton's 2nd law would not apply to this.

"force a spring exerts is proportional to the distance it is stretched or compressed with respect to its equilibrium length" I don't see how this would apply to Newton's second law or the other side of the equation:

[tex]? = k(R-L)[/tex]

-- Abarak
 
Abarak said:
From what I gather the object is not accelerating so Newton's 2nd law would not apply to this.
Sure it's accelerating--it's going in a circle! (Reread the chapter in your text about circular motion.)
 
Oh snap! Talk about a lack of judgment. After applying Newton's 2nd Law everything worked like a charm.

Thanks again for the help Doc.

-- Abarak
 
how did you do this problem, because i have the same problem and its been bugging me like crazy.
 

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