How is the generalization of Poisson's summation formula derived?

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The discussion centers on the derivation of Poisson's summation formula, exploring its mathematical foundations and generalizations. Participants seek clarity on the proof and underlying concepts, including the use of Fourier series and inner products of functions.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty understanding the derivation of Poisson's summation formula and requests clarification on the generalization mentioned in other sources.
  • Another participant suggests that the topic lies within a specific category of mathematics but does not specify which one.
  • A participant claims that the formula can be easily derived using Fourier series, providing a detailed mathematical approach involving inner products and orthonormal functions.
  • Concerns are raised about the clarity of the proof, with requests for the use of LaTeX to better understand the mathematical expressions.
  • Questions arise regarding the nature of the function g(x) in the inner product definition and the interpretation of the Kronecker delta in the context of the orthonormal basis.
  • Some participants challenge the assertion that the inner product results in a delta function, questioning the conditions under which the integral evaluates to zero or one.
  • Another participant provides reasoning that the integral evaluates to zero when considering the periodic nature of the exponential functions involved.

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Participants express differing views on the interpretation of the inner product and the conditions leading to the Kronecker delta. There is no consensus on the clarity of the proof or the nature of the functions involved, indicating ongoing debate and uncertainty.

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I am trying to understand the derivation of the Poisson's sum formula. Wikipedia's article is like crosswords to me. I checked mathworld's take on it. It looked simple, but it stated that the equation is derived from a more general result without stating or proving that general result. Here's the link. Can you please tell me how that generalisation is derived? thank u.
link:

http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PoissonSumFormula.html
 
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can you at least tell me under which category in mathematics does this topic lie so that I know what kind of book I'm searching for.?
 
It is very easy to derive the formula using Fourier series.
 
Consider the functions:

e_{k}(x) = \exp(2 \pi i k x)

For functions defined on the interval from n-1/2 to n + 1/2 with n some arbitrary integer, we define the inner product:

\langle f,g\rangle = \int_{n - 1/2}^{n +1/2} f(x)g^{*}(x)dx

Then we see that:

\langle e_k, e_r\rangle = \delta_{k,r}

where \delta_{k,r} is the Kronecker delta, which is zero if the indices are differet and 1 if the indices are equal. This means that the e_k form an orthonormal basis of functions. It can be shown that these functions also form a complete set which then implies that we can expand any function f as:


f(x) = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{\infty} \langle f, e_{k}\rangle e_{k}(x)

[Note that this is completely analogous to how you can expand any vector in terms of basis vectors. If V is a 3d vector and ex, ey and ez are the unit vectors in the x, y, and z, directions, then V = <V,ex>ex +<V,ey> + <V,ez>ez. The inner products <V,ei> are, of course, the components of V in the ith direction.]

At x = n, we have

e_{k}(n)= \exp(2 \pi i k n) = 1,

so we have:


f(n) = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{\infty} \langle f, e_k\rangle =<br /> \sum_{k=-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{n-1/2}^{n+1/2} f(x) \exp(-2 \pi i k x) dx


Now, sum both sides over n from minus infinity to infinity:

\sum_{n=-\infty}^{\infty}f(n) = \sum_{n=-\infty}^{\infty}\sum_{k=-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{n-1/2}^{n+1/2} f(x) \exp(-2 \pi i k x) dx


Interchange the summations over n and k:

\sum_{n=-\infty}^{\infty}f(n) = \sum_{k=-\infty}^{\infty}\sum_{n=-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{n-1/2}^{n+1/2} f(x) \exp(-2 \pi i k x) dx


Summing over n yields

\sum_{n=-\infty}^{\infty}\int_{n-1/2}^{n+1/2}f(x)\exp(-2\pi i k x) dx=\int_{-\infty}^{\infty}f(x)\exp(-2\pi i k x)dx=\hat{f}(k)

So, we have:

\sum_{n=-\infty}^{\infty}f(n)=\sum_{k=-\infty}^{\infty}\hat{f}(k)
 
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Count thank you greatly but I cannot understand through the language of the proof can you use latex? please? :)
 
O.J. said:
Count thank you greatly but I cannot understand through the language of the proof can you use latex? please? :)


I've edited the posting.
 
"For functions defined on the interval from n-1/2 to n + 1/2 with n some arbitrary integer, we define the inner product:

LaTeX Code: \\langle f,g\\rangle = \\int_{n - 1/2}^{n +1/2} f(x)g^{*}(x)dx

Then we see that:

LaTeX Code: \\langle e_k, e_r\\rangle = \\delta_{k,r}

where LaTeX Code: \\delta_{k,r} is the Kronecker delta, which is zero if the indices are differet and 1 if the indices are equal. This means that the LaTeX Code: e_k form an orthonormal basis of functions. It can be shown that these functions also form a complete set which then implies that we can expand any function f as:"I did not understand something here, what is the nature of g(x)? is it an arbitrary function or not? And how exactly did you deduce tht it is a kronecker's delta? the product of the two exponentials indeed will be 1 if the indices are the same but how will it always be zero if they arent? it could be exp (2pix (k-n)) for example..
 
I do not understand how <ek , er> results in a delta function. Isnt the integrand going to be e^(2pi i k) * e^(-2pi i r). While this is equal to 1 if k = r, it isn't necessarily 0 if r isn't equal to k. How did u interpret it as delta? please clarify.
 
Equivalently, the integrand is e^[2 pi i (k-r)].

(k-r) is an integer, and the integral is done over a range of 1 (from n-½ to n+½). So the integral is done over an integer number of periods of the function e^[2 pi i (k-r)]. Therefore, the integral is zero.
 

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