How is the Lorentz Factor Derived?

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the Lorentz factor, a concept in the realm of special relativity. The original poster is attempting to navigate through the mathematical steps involved in this derivation, specifically focusing on the time taken for light to travel between two points.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster presents a series of equations related to the time light takes to travel between two points, questioning the correctness of their manipulations. Some participants raise concerns about the definitions of the points A and B, suggesting a need for clarification on their roles in the context of the problem.

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The discussion is ongoing, with the original poster expressing uncertainty about their current approach. While one participant questions the validity of the equations presented, another indicates a shift in strategy by opting to use a different conceptual model (a light clock) to tackle the problem.

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The original poster references a specific online resource for guidance, indicating a reliance on external explanations. There is also an implication of confusion regarding the definitions and roles of the variables involved in the derivation.

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I am trying to show how the Lorentz factor is derived but i am unsure how to get past a certain stage..
2. Homework Equations / attempt
Let:
c = velocity of light.
v = the velocity as observed from where time t is measured.
D = distance AB.
t = time light occupies to pass from A to B.
t1 = time light occupies to return from B to A.
Firstly we can see that
t= D/(c+v)
And
t1= D/(c-v)
So for the total distance,
t+t1=D/(c+v)+D/(c+v)
Make a common denominator and add the two fractions,
t+t1=(D(c-V)+D(c+v))/((c+v)(c-v))
Expand the brackets,
(Dc+Dv+Dc-Dv)/(c^2+cv-cv-v^2)
Simplify, cancel out where possible,
(2Dc)/(c^2-v^2)
And take out the factor of 2D
t+t1=2D(c/(c^2-v^2)) or 2D(1/(c-(v^2/c))
( I am unsure whether or not taking it that far is right yet..)

Above is where i have arrived and the next step i am supposed to arrive at..
2D (c^2 / (c^2 - v^2)) = 2D (1 + (v^2 / c^2)]

Any help asap please?

thankyou
 
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Joeirvin said:
t = time light occupies to pass from A to B.
t1 = time light occupies to return from B to A.
What's A and B? Are they events? Points in space? Wouldn't this make t=t1?

Joeirvin said:
Firstly we can see that
t= D/(c+v)
And
t1= D/(c-v)
I'm not sure what you're doing, but this looks wrong.
 
It doesn't matter now, i decided to start over using a light clock idea, and it seemed to work perfectly. Thanks anyway
 

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