Undergrad How is this a representation of a 3 dimensional torus?

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The discussion clarifies the representation of a two-dimensional torus in a four-dimensional space, specifically through the intersection of two orthogonal Euclidean planes. It explains that a torus can be visualized as a circle rotated around another circle, with each equation defining a location on these circles. The equations represent two cylinders in the product space R^4 = R^2 x R^2, where their intersection forms the torus. The intersection is defined mathematically as (S^1 x R^2) intersect (R^2 x S^1) = S^1 x S^1. This understanding enhances the visualization of the torus as a product of two sets, each representing a circle.
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How is this expression of a torus?
In a differential geometry text, a torus is defined by the pair of equations:

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I initially thought this was somehow a torus embedded in 4 dimensions, but I do not see how we can visualize two orthogonal 2-dimensional Euclidian spaces. How is this a representation of a 2 dimensional torus embedded in 3 dimensions, with 4 presumably orthogonal coordinates?
 
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This is a two dimensional torus.
 
The idea is you can imagine a torus as a circle rotated around in a circle. The first equation defines your location on the first circle, and the second the second circle.
 
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in 4 space with coords p,q,r,s, the subspaces p=q=0 and r=s=0 are two orthogonal euclidean 2 dimensional spaces. this torus meets each of them in a circle.

Alternatively, R^4 = R^2 x R^2 is the product of two orthogonal euclidean planes. your two equations define two (3 dimensional) "cylinders", one in each of these products, i.e. S^1 x R^2 and R^2 x S^1. Setting both equations equal to zero defines the intersection of these two cylinders, namely (S^1xR^2)intersect(R^2xS^1) = S^1xS^1.
 
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thank you for your replies. It makes more sense now. It is a product of the sets {p^2+q^2=1} and {r^2+s^2=1}.
 
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