How Is Work Calculated for a Charge Moving in a Radial Electric Field?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work done by an electric field on a charge moving in a radial electric field. The problem involves analyzing a plot of electric field strength versus distance and applying relevant equations to determine the work done on a specific charge.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the integration of the electric field to find work done, questioning the correct application of variables and constants in the equations. There is also a focus on the sign of the work done and its relation to electric potential energy.

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Some participants have provided feedback on the original poster's approach, confirming certain steps while also clarifying potential misunderstandings regarding the variables used. The conversation reflects an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved without reaching a definitive conclusion.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the charge values and the nature of work done by the electric field versus changes in potential energy. The original poster also notes a correction in the unit of charge from coulombs to microcoulombs.

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Homework Statement


Carefully study the following plot of electric field E in N/C versus distance r in m and answer the questions that follow. The electric field is directed radially outward, and the variation of E with r is independent of direction.

Refering to the figure, determine the work done by the electric field on a 7.75 C charge moved from A to B.



Homework Equations


[tex]W=q \int\vec{E}\dot\vec{dr}[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution


First I found the charge caused by the electric field( I used E=25 and r=2 since they intersect:
[tex]q=\frac{E r^2}{\epsilon_{o}}\longrightarrow q= q=\frac{25* 2^2}{\epsilon_{o}}= 1.11E^-8<br /> C[/tex]
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I am finding Work done from a to b:
[tex]W= q\int\vec{E}\dot\vec{dr}[/tex] I am pretty sure I am integrating with respect to r.
[tex]W= q\int\frac{kq_{1}}{r^2}dr[/tex] a=10 b=4
So what do you think?
 

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anyone?
 
Winzer said:
anyone?

Yes, looks right to me. Although you wrote [tex]q=\frac{E r^2}{\epsilon_{o}}[/tex] you meant [tex]q=\frac{E r^2}{k}[/tex] right?

Also here:
[tex]W= q\int\vec{E}\dot\vec{dr}[/tex]

[tex]W= q\int\frac{kq_{1}}{r^2}dr[/tex]

q is the 7.75C and q1 is the 1.11E-8C (doesn't matter mathematically... but for your substitution to make sense E = kq1/r^2... hence q1 is the charge creating the field)...

just making sure because you used q for 1.11E-8 before...

Everything looks good.
 
learningphysics said:
Yes, looks right to me. Although you wrote [tex]q=\frac{E r^2}{\epsilon_{o}}[/tex] you meant [tex]q=\frac{E r^2}{k}[/tex] right?

Also here:
[tex]W= q\int\vec{E}\dot\vec{dr}[/tex]

[tex]W= q\int\frac{kq_{1}}{r^2}dr[/tex]

q is the 7.75C and q1 is the 1.11E-8C (doesn't matter mathematically... but for your substitution to make sense E = kq1/r^2... hence q1 is the charge creating the field)...

just making sure because you used q for 1.11E-8 before...

Everything looks good.
That is Correct i meant K.
So: [tex](9.0e^9* 1.11E^-8* 7.75E^-6 * \int \frac{1}{r^2} dr[/tex] boudries of a=10 to b=4. = -1.161E-4 J, shouldn't work be positive, we are going against the e-field
Oh and by the way the charge is suppose to be 7.75 uC.
 
Winzer said:
That is Correct i meant K.
So: [tex](9.0e^9* 1.11E^-8* 7.75E^-6 * \int \frac{1}{r^2} dr[/tex] boudries of a=10 to b=4. = -1.161E-4 J, shouldn't work be positive, we are going against the e-field
Oh and by the way the charge is suppose to be 7.75 uC.

It should be negative since we're calculating the work done by the field, not the change in electric potential energy.

The change in electric potential energy is the negative of the work done by the field... the field does negative work... potential energy increases.
 
Ok i get it,
Thank you
 

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