How Is Work Calculated When Separating Charged Sheets?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the work per unit area required to separate infinite sheets of charge with equal and opposite charge densities from a separation of d to 2d. The subject area includes electrostatics and energy considerations in electric fields.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster considers using energy stored in the electric field to determine work done, questioning the units of their result. They also inquire about alternative methods involving force or electric field integration.
  • Some participants reference the potential energy formula for two charges and discuss the implications of using force to calculate work.
  • Others express uncertainty about alternative methods and seek ideas from the group.
  • One participant suggests calculating the force on a patch of area and argues that this approach should yield a consistent result with the energy method.

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The discussion is active with various methods being explored, including energy differences and force calculations. Participants are questioning assumptions and seeking clarification on the approaches, but there is no explicit consensus on the best method yet.

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Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to ensure that their results are expressed in the correct units. There is also a mention of homework rules that may limit the types of solutions discussed.

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Homework Statement


I have a current problem set question about the work per unit area required to separate infinite sheets of charge with equal and opposite charge densities from a separation of d to a separation of 2d.

Homework Equations


U=(1/8∏)∫E2dV
W=∫F*dr
E=4∏σ

The Attempt at a Solution


I was thinking I could just find the difference in energy stored in the field before and after... so I would integrate E2 over the initial and final volumes, and then the difference must come from work I have put into the system, which shows up as energy stored in the electric field.

If I do this, I get Ui=2∏σ2d and Uf=4∏σ2d

And so the work is just 2∏σ2d. But how am I sure that this has units work per area? It seems like work per volume because you have (esu^2)/(cm^3) for the units written out fully.

Is there a way to do this by integrating the force (or perhaps the field) rather than finding stored energy changes?
 
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Remember the potential energy of two charges is ##U = \frac{1}{4\pi\epsilon_0} \frac{q_1 q_2}{r}## (in SI), so energy is charge2/length.
 
I believe the answer is correct.
 
What about the force method? Or any other method that's valid?
 
I actually don't know how to do any other method- ideas from other people?
 
I think you can argue that the force felt by a patch of area dA on one sheet is due solely to the electric field produced by the other sheet (E = 2∏σ). The force on the patch is then dq*E where dq = σdA. Since the force will be constant as you separate the plates, the work will just be F*d. I believe this will give you the same answer as the energy method.
 

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