How Is Work Calculated with a Nonconstant Force?

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The discussion centers on calculating work done by a nonconstant force defined as f(x) = (6x^3 - 2x) Newtons over the distance from x = 0 to x = 100 meters. The correct approach involves integrating the force function rather than using the simplified work equation w = f * d. The integral of the force yields the work done as W = ∫(6x^3 - 2x) dx from 0 to 100, resulting in 1.5 x 10^8 Joules, which aligns with the textbook answer. Participants clarified that when force varies, integration is necessary to determine work accurately.

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Homework Statement


An object is subject to a nonconstant force f = (6x^3 -2x) ihat

such that the force is in Newtons when x is in meters. Determine the work done on the object as a result of this force as the object moves from x = 0 to x = 100 m

Homework Equations


w = f * d

The Attempt at a Solution


again not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Plugging in 100 m into f you get

5999800 m, and the total distance covered was 100 m, so multiplying the two you get 5.999 x 10^8 joules but book gives me 1.5 x 10^8 joules

I do not see how the books answer agrees with the equation w = f * d.

alternately I could use W = \Delta K + E_t but I don't think using this equation is right in this case...
 
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Rijad Hadzic said:

Homework Statement


An object is subject to a nonconstant force f = (6x^3 -2x) ihat

such that the force is in Newtons when x is in meters. Determine the work done on the object as a result of this force as the object moves from x = 0 to x = 100 m

Homework Equations


w = f * d

The Attempt at a Solution


again not sure what I'm doing wrong here. Plugging in 100 m into f you get

5999800 m, and the total distance covered was 100 m, so multiplying the two you get 5.999 x 10^8 joules but book gives me 1.5 x 10^8 joules

I do not see how the books answer agrees with the equation w = f * d.

alternately I could use W = \Delta K + E_t but I don't think using this equation is right in this case...
I'm pretty sure you need to use an integral for this problem. When the force changes as a function of distance, you need to integrate the force f(x) * dx over the range of distance x. Can you show us that work?

If you haven't use LaTeX before to show integral work, you can find a tutorial under INFO at the top of the page (click Help/How-To).
 
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berkeman said:
I'm pretty sure you need to use an integral for this problem. When the force changes as a function of distance, you need to integrate the force f(x) * dx over the range of distance x. Can you show us that work?

If you haven't use LaTeX before to show integral work, you can find a tutorial under INFO at the top of the page (click Help/How-To).

I see. So if acceleration is not constant, then we have to use integral method? and if the force IS constant, we can use equation W = F*d?
 
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This involves basic calculus.. you need to find the Work equations first which is

6/4 × X^4 + X^2

now insert X = 100 and X = 0

1.5 10^8 +10^4 - (0)^4 -0^2Wait the answer is different from your book, why?._.
(Btw i can't give you the proper equations since I am on mobile, its too messy)
 
Hilmy atha said:
This involves basic calculus.. you need to find the Work equations first which is

6/4 × X^4 + X^2

now insert X = 100 and X = 0

1.5 10^8 +10^4 - (0)^4 -0^2Wait the answer is different from your book, why?._.
(Btw i can't give you the proper equations since I am on mobile, its too messy)
I'm not sure this is helpful. Let's see how the OP's work looks first...
 
Rijad Hadzic said:
I see. So if acceleration is not constant, then we have to use integral method? and if the force IS constant, we can use equation W = F*d?
You haven't been given any information about the acceleration. You are given f(x) and asked to find the work done over a range of x. That means you need to do the integral to figure out the total work over that distance.
 
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berkeman said:
I'm not sure this is helpful. Let's see how the OP's work looks first...

Hmm so I integrate function 6x^3 -2x

I get (6/4)x^4 - x^2
(6/4)(100)^4 - (100)^2 = 149990000

so that is my force. My distance is 100, so I multiply 149990000 by 100, and get 1.5 x 10^10

Still not my books answer :(. Why am I off by 10^10 - 10^8 :(?
 
berkeman said:
You haven't been given any information about the acceleration. You are given f(x) and asked to find the work done over a range of x. That means you need to do the integral to figure out the total work over that distance.
Well its saying that the force is not constant, so I assumed acceleration to be non constant as well... does that seem right?
 
Rijad Hadzic said:
Hmm so I integrate function 6x^3 -2x

I get (6/4)x^4 - x^2
(6/4)(100)^4

so that is my force. My distance is 100, so I multiply149990000 by 100, and get 1.5 x 10^10

Still not my books answer :(. Why am I off by 10^10 - 10^8 :(?

No no, you got it right. Wow the answer was much closer to the book than i thoguht.

So,149990000 Joule IS your Work. Which rounds up to 1.5 × 10^8. The integral of Force IS work. Your equation has been converted to work equation
 
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Hilmy atha said:
No no, you got it right. Wow the answer was much closer to the book than i thoguht.

So,149990000 Joule IS your Work. Which rounds up to 1.5 × 10^8. The integral of Force IS work. Your equation has been converted to work equation

Ahh okay finally I understand now.

Using the fact that integral of force is work, I didn't have to multiply by 100 at all.

Okay thank you guys. But also if you can answer my question:

"Well its saying that the force is not constant, so I assumed acceleration to be non constant as well... does that seem right?"

I appreciate everything!
 
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Rijad Hadzic said:
Ahh okay finally I understand now.
Okay thank you guys. But also if you can answer my question:

"Well its saying that the force is not constant, so I assumed acceleration to be non constant as well... does that seem right?"

I appreciate everything!

Well yes.. if your Force changed, either the accel. or the mass changed. But you don't gain/lose mass along the way :p so yeah acceleration is the one that changes
 
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