How long China becomes the world leader in business?

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The discussion centers on the timeline and conditions under which China may become the world leader in business. Participants explore various factors influencing this potential leadership, including economic growth, governance, and international standards. The scope includes theoretical considerations, economic indicators, and political implications.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether China can become a world leader in business due to alleged fraud in scientific practices.
  • Others argue that China's growth is contingent upon adopting labor rights and environmental regulations similar to those in the free world.
  • A participant asks for clarification on what constitutes "world leader," suggesting GDP as a potential metric.
  • Some express skepticism about China's growth stability, noting that economic cycles are inherently unstable.
  • There are claims that China may already be a world leader in business due to its trade surplus and economic practices.
  • Concerns are raised about the political structure in China, suggesting that a transition to democracy may be necessary for broader acceptance of business practices.
  • One participant references resource depletion as a global challenge that could impact all nations, including China.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on China's potential as a business leader, with no consensus reached. Some believe China is already leading, while others emphasize the need for significant changes in governance and economic practices.

Contextual Notes

Participants' arguments depend on various assumptions about economic stability, governance models, and definitions of leadership, which remain unresolved.

kiengian86
How long do you think it will be before China becomes the world leader in business?

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They will continue to grow their manufacturing base until they allow unionization, cap and trade, occupational and safety standards, anti-discrimination lawsuits, workers comp claims, environmental legislation, and all of the rest of the rules governing the free world.
 
How do you define "world leader"? GDP?
 
I doubt they will if they continue this stuff with the Green Dam.
 
By 2040 I believe, they are passing Japan by 2010 in the terms of GDP. But their growth is unstable I believe.
 
WhoWee said:
They will continue to grow their manufacturing base until they allow unionization, cap and trade, occupational and safety standards, anti-discrimination lawsuits, workers comp claims, environmental legislation, and all of the rest of the rules governing the free world.

That will only happen if they convert to a democracy. Right now they are a dictatorship. They are banning Avatar because a lot of the Chinese people relate to it as the Chinese government has been kicking many people out of their homes to make way for developers.
 
rootX said:
By 2040 I believe, they are passing Japan by 2010 in the terms of GDP. But their growth is unstable I believe.


In the short term no country's growth is stable. It goes up. It goes down. That's the business cycle.
 
WhoWee said:
They will continue to grow their manufacturing base until they allow unionization, cap and trade, occupational and safety standards, anti-discrimination lawsuits, workers comp claims, environmental legislation, and all of the rest of the rules governing the free world.

Why must a country follow these rules in order to become a world leader in business? I certainly know that if I ran my own personal country many of these 'rules' would not be in place at all.
 
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What makes up believe that China is not already the world leader in business? They are the only country in the world that runs a trade surplus and has not just a balanced budget but a surplus. Business leader -- work hard -- make stuff -- make money. I think China has got it already.
 
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Of course all the nations of the Earth are subject to the resource depletion talked about in the Club of Rome's book "The limits to Growth" 1972. It will be a rough transition for all.
 

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