How long do you expect transit to last?

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to the transit of an exoplanet across a sun-like star, focusing on calculating the reduction in flux during the transit and determining the expected duration of the transit. The scope includes theoretical calculations and assumptions regarding orbital mechanics and transit geometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates a 0.03% reduction in flux during the transit using the formula ΔF/F = Rp²/Rs², where Rp is the radius of the planet and Rs is the radius of the star.
  • Another participant suggests that for the transit duration, it is reasonable to assume the transit occurs through the center due to the lack of information on the impact parameter b.
  • A different participant confirms that the formula τ = 2(Rp + Rs)/V is appropriate for calculating the transit duration for a central transit.
  • One participant discusses the method for calculating the velocity of the planet using the formula Vs = 2πrs/P, where P is the orbital period and rs is the radius of the star, and mentions the period formula P² = 4π/GM * a³.
  • Another participant notes that adding the radius of the planet to the stellar radius is subjective and depends on how one defines the start and end of the transit, suggesting it is an approximation that holds under certain conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the use of specific formulas for calculating transit duration and flux reduction, but there is some disagreement regarding the assumptions about the impact parameter and the definitions related to the start and end of the transit.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations regarding the lack of information on the impact parameter and the definitions used for the start and end of the transit, which may affect the calculations.

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I have a homework problem that I am having troubles with. There are 2 parts

A transiting exoplanet with a diameter twice that of the Earth orbits a sun-like star in a circular orbit of radius 1.5 AU

a) How much reduction in the flux of the star occurs during the transit?
Earth's diameter=Planet's radius (Rp) =8.5175×10-5 AU
And because it says a "sun-like" star, I used the same values as the sun for radius
Star's radius (Rs) =4.649×10-3 AU
And I can use the formula \frac{ΔF}{F}=\frac{R^{2}_{p}}{R^{2}_{s}}
By plugging in the values, i got 0.03% reduction in flux

b) How long do you expect the transit to last?
I am stuck on this one. I was not told the impact parameter b so do I assume that the transit happens through the centre?
or do I use the formula τ=\frac{2(Rp+Rs)}{V}
where τ= transit duration, Rp=diameter of planet, Rs=diameter of star, V=velocity

Any help is appreciated, thanks in advance!
 
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duder1234 said:
b) How long do you expect the transit to last?
I am stuck on this one. I was not told the impact parameter b so do I assume that the transit happens through the centre?
I guess you have to assume this, yes. It is a bad problem statement, it should give this.

or do I use the formula τ=\frac{2(Rp+Rs)}{V}
Why "or"? That is the right formula for a central transit.
 
Thanks for the reply!
I just want to check but I can get the velocity with the formula:V_{s}=\frac{2πr_{s}}{P} where P=Period and r_{s}=radius of the star
and the period formula being P^{2}=\frac{4π}{GM}a^{3}
M=Mass of star, a=semi-major axis
 
If you add the radius of the planet to the stellar radius is a matter of taste, depending on the definition of "start" and "end" of transit. And this is an approximation that works if the orbital radius is much larger than the stellar radius only.

Apart from that, it looks fine.
 

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