How Long Does a Pendulum Take to Complete 12 Oscillations?

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The discussion revolves around the oscillation period of a pendulum, specifically calculating the time it takes for a pendulum with a given mass and angle to complete a set number of oscillations. The original poster presents a scenario involving a 125 g ball tied to a string, released from an angle of 4.80 degrees, and notes that 12 oscillations take 9.00 seconds.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relevant formulas for the period of a pendulum, including T = 2π √(l/g). There are attempts to calculate the period based on the provided data, with some questioning the use of mass and angle in the calculations. Others suggest verifying the calculations and understanding the implications of the period formula.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, providing hints and corrections regarding the calculations. There is acknowledgment of the potential confusion regarding the role of mass and angle in determining the period, and some participants are exploring alternative methods to approach the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the original poster's lack of recent practice in physics, which may influence their understanding of the concepts. Additionally, the discussion includes a related question about the period of a pendulum on Mars, indicating a broader exploration of the topic.

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Homework Statement


A 125 g ball is tied to a string. It is pulled to an angle of 4.80 degrees and released to swing as a pendulum. 12 oscillations take 9.00 s.

Please help, I'm not sure which formulas to use
 
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What do you know about pendulums? What's the formula for the period of a pendulum?
 
Period (T) = 1/f
T = 2π √(l/g)
 
hellokitty said:
Period (T) = 1/f
That's true, but that's true in general, not just for pendulums. What formula allows you to calculate the period of a pendulum from its physical properties, such as its length?

T = 2π √(l/g)
That's the one.

Hint: Use the data provided to find the period. Then solve for the unknown length.
 
I did that, but I wasn't sure if I got the correct answer.

T = 12/9 = 1.33333

1.3333=2π√(L/9.8)
1.3333(2π)= √(L/9.8)
squared the left side and multiplied it by 9.8 and..

I eventually got 687.07m
 
hellokitty said:
I did that, but I wasn't sure if I got the correct answer.

T = 12/9 = 1.33333
Careful. The period is the time for one oscillation, so it should be total time divided by the number of oscillations. (You have them switched.)
 
ah, I see.

Thanks!

I haven't had any practice in physics for a long time, so I'm trying to re-learn everything.
 
I just realized that I didn't use the mass or degree of angle in solving the question.

Is there a way to answer this question using another equation?
 
hellokitty said:
I just realized that I didn't use the mass or degree of angle in solving the question.
Perhaps the period does not depend on either of those variables. :wink:

Are there are more parts to this question?
 
  • #10
no, this was the entire question.

I guess the mass and angle is there to play mind tricks.
 
  • #11
Another question:

Astronauts on the first trip to Mars take along a pendulum that has a period on Earth of 1.50 s. The period on Mars turns out to be 2.45 s.

My answer:

I used the equation T=2pi √ (L/g)
I first plugged in the 1.5s = 2pi √ (L/9.8) and found L = .5585

Then I plugged in 2.45s = 2pi √(.5585/g) to solve for g of mars.

Now I got 3.6733 m/s2 = g for mars.

Can someone correct me if I'm wrong or if there is an easier way to solve this problem?
 
  • #12
Yours is a perfectly fine way to solve this problem.

Here's how I would solve it:

T_e = 2\pi \sqrt{L/g_e}

T_m = 2\pi \sqrt{L/g_m}

Divide the two and square:
(T_e/T_m)^2 = g_m/g_e

Thus:
g_m = g_e(T_e/T_m)^2
 

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